BYU admissions from the MAD board.

Post by **_OUT OF MY MISERY** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 4:49 pm

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But since I don't pay tithing and do not intend to send any of my children to YBU (when you can be a clone), I really don't care all that much.[/quote]

I second this. I don't pay tithing and my children did not attend BYU. My oldest graduated from NYU's Stern Business School/college. My second is attending a university in Maryland and will graduate this spring. My third is still high school.

It does seem a little unfair that they get to bypass the standard admission requirements, considering what my sons had to do to get into their colleges.

Post by **_dartagnan** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 4:55 pm

The gospel message here?

You're a special child of God... but some are more special than others.

Maybe it is justified by the preexistence doctrine. These people were more noble in the preexistence so they get to be born to GA's and enjoy benefits others can only dream about. Kinda like the blacks were rebellious, hence the priesthood ban.

Post by **_OUT OF MY MISERY** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 5:05 pm

dartagnan wrote:The gospel message here?

You're a special child of God... but some are more special than others.

Maybe it is justified by the preexistence doctrine. These people were more noble in the preexistence so they get to be born to GA's and enjoy benefits others can only dream about. Kinda like the blacks were rebellious, hence the priesthood ban.

Could be. My son's obviously were not noble in the preexistence cause they were born to me a heathen(did I spell it right).

Post by **_Maxrep** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 5:05 pm

dartagnan wrote:
You're a special child of God... but some are more special than others.

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that's funny.

What surprises me is that GA's are viewed as employees of BYU. Is this correct? When the GA's are officiating the afairs of the church, I don't see a correlation with BYU.

I very well may have all of this backwards.....

Post by **_asbestosman** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 5:53 pm

I seem to recall that children of GA's got free tuition. I think I saw that on the admissions / scholarship application way back when I went to BYU some half-decade ago.

On the one hand it bothers me to think that people are given perks for relation instead of merit. That seems to go against the "God is no respector of persons thing". Sure, other universities do it, but one might expect more from the Lord. On the other hand, I hear that BYU exists to help train members to help the church around the world. This policy might possibly help encourage children of GA's to attend and gain more training some of which they may have received by being closely associated with GA's.

_Yoda · Post by **_Yoda** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 6:20 pm

TD wrote:Actually, isn't Liz related to an apolstle?

My husband's uncle is an apostle.

The apostles are on the board of directors for BYU, so are technically employees. Their immediate family (spouse, children) receive free tuition and preferential treatment as far as admissions are concerned. To be honest, I'm not sure if this trickles down to all GA's or not.

Post by **_Trevor** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 6:46 pm

What surprises me is not that they do this but that any of you are surprised by it.

The LDS Church was started by a charlatan with big ambitions. He thought that, as long as he did something good for others along the way, it justified his dishonesty and self-aggrandizement. This manifested itself, inter alia, in Joseph styling himself as a descendant of Old Testament Joseph and Jesus Christ, no less.

On the whole, I would bet that today's GA is a better, if less creative, person. Still, the concept that there are certain 'betters' in this society, who get better perks, persists. This discovery is simply one more confirmation of it. Everyone is equal, but some are more equal than others. ;-)

Post by **_karl61** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 6:54 pm

This is the second time I read the term YBU - it's too funny.

Post by **_skippy the dead** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 7:16 pm

I'm actually not concerned by the policy in the least, and don't really understand the controversy here. The numbers involved would be a very small fraction of a percentage of the overall student body, and generally speaking, most other universities have similar policies for offspring of employees of the university or affiliates, as well as "legacy" admissions. No biggie to me.

I recall an initially negative reaction when I learned that "Lamanites" got free tuition at the Y, no matter what their economic circumstance (one of my law school classmates - a Native American - about to embark on a lucrative career was quite happy to know that no matter how much he made, his kids would have a free education just as he did), but then realized again that the numbers of those affected were quite small, and it was the university's right to admit who they wanted and charge what they liked.

Post by **_harmony** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 7:17 pm

skippy the dead wrote:I recall an initially negative reaction when I learned that "Lamanites" got free tuition at the Y, no matter what their economic circumstance (one of my law school classmates - a Native American - about to embark on a lucrative career was quite happy to know that no matter how much he made, his kids would have a free education just as he did), but then realized again that the numbers of those affected were quite small, and it was the university's right to admit who they wanted and charge what they liked.

This I didn't know.