Brigham Young declared Levi's "Fornication Pants".

[_Doctor Steuss]

Isn't that reformed Egyptian? I coulda sworn that was like the 2nd closest star to Heaven, next to Kolob.

I’m fairly certain that it isn’t a star. I’m pretty sure it’s a small gaseous nebula.

[_guy sajer]

Religious types tend to get hung up on evil social, fashion, etc. trends that portend all sorts of calamities, moral degradation, collapse of society, etc. In almost all cases, the trends march onward and none of the calamitous events ever actually happen. This'll be the case hundreds of years from now; religious nutcases will be frothing at the mouth over the same kinds of things predicting the fall of civilization.

BY was a religious nut and a megalomaniac nut to boot. Why does anyone in the 21st century give a s*** what this moron had to say?

Brigham certainly had his problems and ruled with an iron fist. But he was not a moron and he was fairly successful in settling the great basin of the USA as well as establishing the sect he led after Joseph Smith was killed. One could argue that he had more influence on what Mormonism is now then did Joseph Smith.

Agreed. Perhaps moron isn't the best word. What I mean is that his views on religion and society were moronic; this doesn't mean he was not a highly accomplished man.

[_harmony]

Then we're using a different definition of closed. I do not consider the Relief Society General Broadcast closed.

Neither do I. There are men there.

[_Yoda]

Also, as a Priesthood holder, you could walk into a Relief Society meeting and/or broadcast, and no one would say a word to you for being there. I doubt a woman would fare as well in a priesthood meeting of any kind.

That depends, are you bringing in refreshments?

:P

[_Maxrep]

If you could find the exact style of Levi's BY was referring to, that would make for one hot Ebay auction. Up for sale is an authentic pair of fornication pants from the Brigham Young era!

[_Phaedrus Ut]

For some reason I thought about the line in a Fall Out Boy song Sugar We're Going Down

Is this more than you bargained for yet
Oh don't mind me I'm watching you two from the closet
Wishing to be the friction in your jeans
Isn't it messed up how I'm just dying to be him
I'm just a notch in your bedpost
But you're just a line in a song

Reminded me of the chaste Levi loving makeout sessions I had as a good Mormon boy.


Phaedrus

[_Dr. Shades]

For some reason I thought about the line in a Fall Out Boy song Sugar We're Going Down

You can actually understand Fall Out Boy's lyrics?