In another thread, charity, described various reasons why she thinks the critic's are not "winning", I suppose you could say, and she wrote about not seeing any "killer blows" to the Book of Abraham. I posed this question to charity in the existing thread but now I'm curious.
What would TBM's consider to be a "killer blow" to the Book of Mormon?
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Yeah, as long as "absence of evidence does not mean evidence of absence" is alive and well, all is still perfectly plausible in the Book of Mormon.
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Re: TBM's: Killer blow to the Book of Mormon?
Jersey Girl wrote:What would TBM's consider to be a "killer blow" to the Book of Mormon?
God telling me he was just kidding.
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Re: TBM's: Killer blow to the Book of Mormon?
The Nehor wrote:Jersey Girl wrote:What would TBM's consider to be a "killer blow" to the Book of Mormon?
God telling me he was just kidding.
That SO would not affect you. You would just chalk it up to satan appearing to you in the form of God. :)
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Re: TBM's: Killer blow to the Book of Mormon?
Scottie wrote:The Nehor wrote:Jersey Girl wrote:What would TBM's consider to be a "killer blow" to the Book of Mormon?
God telling me he was just kidding.
That SO would not affect you. You would just chalk it up to satan appearing to you in the form of God. :)
No, I've done both, think I can tell. If the Book of Mormon is a joke, it's going to be hilarious when God throws the punchline to me. ;)
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Jersey Girl wrote:Nehor,
In all seriousness, what would meet your personal criteria for a "killer blow" to the Book of Mormon. What might be the catalyst for "God telling" you?
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God has never needed a catalyst to tell me stuff in the past though occasionally I think he gave me catalysts because he wanted me to search out certain things and ask certain questions.
I think you're asking what kind of evidence would lead me to believe that the Book of Mormon might be false. If you could prove that the entire western hemisphere was populated solely by robots from 3000 BC to 500 AD I'd have to ask God if the Nephites surgically removed their brains at some point and put them in robot bodies and this was cut from the record for some reason. If he said they did not, I would have to question.
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The Nehor wrote:Jersey Girl wrote:Nehor,
In all seriousness, what would meet your personal criteria for a "killer blow" to the Book of Mormon. What might be the catalyst for "God telling" you?
Jersey Girl
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God has never needed a catalyst to tell me stuff in the past though occasionally I think he gave me catalysts because he wanted me to search out certain things and ask certain questions.
I think you're asking what kind of evidence would lead me to believe that the Book of Mormon might be false. If you could prove that the entire western hemisphere was populated solely by robots from 3000 BC to 500 AD I'd have to ask God if the Nephites surgically removed their brains at some point and put them in robot bodies and this was cut from the record for some reason. If he said they did not, I would have to question.
Wasn't the Book of Mormon the catalyst for the witness of the Holy Spirit? Or was it something else that led you to believe it's contents?
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Jersey Girl wrote:Wasn't the Book of Mormon the catalyst for the witness of the Holy Spirit? Or was it something else that led you to believe it's contents?
I don't know what my first witness was. Trying to reconstruct one's own past can be difficult. At times I think I was a total screwball in my teens who knew nothing but then there are those snippets of greatness mixed in. I do know that the first time I recognized the Holy Ghost for what it was completely the feeling was not one of something alien happening. It was more of a: "So it was you all along" type of experience. That experience though focussed more heavily on the reality of the Atonement of Jesus Christ and the existence of God. My witness of the Book of Mormon (and the rest of the Standard Works) came later though I casually accepted them before. My most powerful witness of the Book of Mormon came in a dream (ironically I was in the middle of the D&C and the Old Testament when it came) so I'm not sure what the catalyst was. I just assume God thought I needed it. Nice guy, that God fellow.
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Re: TBM's: Killer blow to the Book of Mormon?
The Nehor wrote:Jersey Girl wrote:What would TBM's consider to be a "killer blow" to the Book of Mormon?
God telling me he was just kidding.
God being unwilling to clarify what I thought He had allready told me was my choking point. A couple of years ago I began to ask God, "are you serious?". Evidently He had nothing to say. So either He's too embarrassed to fess up or it wasn't Him in the first place.
Nehor,
For God's sakes, make sure you offer to shake his hand. I mean, how in the world would you really know otherwise??