Mark E. Peterson Never Saw His Wife Naked

Post by **_Trevor** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 9:02 pm

guy sajer wrote:Yes, this strikes me very much as an urban legend also. I don't believe it.

Yeah, I'm inclined to go with urban legend, but people never cease to amaze me.

Post by **_Coggins7** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 9:14 pm

It's because you are part of a grand conspiracy of Marxist, atheist, postmodernist, hippy-types.

These four types have coexisted for sometime in the modern social science and humanities professorate, because of their ability to close ranks and consolidate their forces against the common enemy to them all, classical liberalism and Judeo/Christian moral and social concepts.

Postmodernism and classical Marxism which normally would not get along, in their pure forms, have indeed, blended well in syncritistic combinations in the various "studies" departments at most major universities and colleges. Present Post modern critiques of culture, film, art, and literature borrow substantially from traditional Neo-Marxist and Cultural Marxist categories (its not at all unusual to hear critical theorists or deconstructionists use terms like "late stage global capitalism" or "commodification" in their discussions of western society).

They are all phenomena of the cultural Left.

Post by **_Trevor** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 9:18 pm

So predictable.

Post by **_Coggins7** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 11:45 pm

You know what Trevor? It just occurred to me that you're way over your head in this area and really have nothing to add to it because you don't understand the discourse.

In that case, remain silent, and let those who want to discuss it do so.

Post by **_Coggins7** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 11:46 pm

And, again, why are you so threatened by this discourse regarding the sixties?

Post by **_beastie** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 1:21 am

It does sound like an urban legend, but I think it's possible. There are members with rather extreme ideas regarding sex. Our old stake president believed that sex was for procreation ONLY, and he's not the only member I knew with that belief. (I know this for a fact from his son, and he DID ask people about oral sex, according to the young marrieds I knew) Yes, that is old-fashioned and not as common as it once was, but I can imagine the SP making some sort of similar comment that would make people gasp. People can say all sorts of stupid things on the spur of the moment. So I'm withholding judgment, but will say that I can easily imagine some LDS thinking such a thing, and even saying it out loud.

Post by **_Trevor** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:00 am

Coggins7 wrote:And, again, why are you so threatened by this discourse regarding the sixties?

If you had a piano with one functional key in your house, and your spouse insisted on playing it endlessly, how long would your sanity hold?

Post by **_Coggins7** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 3:40 am

If you had a piano with one functional key in your house, and your spouse insisted on playing it endlessly, how long would your sanity hold?

A. That doesn't answer the question.

B. Many of my posts have nothing to do with this subject.

Move on...nothing to see here.

Post by **_Trevor** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 5:30 am

Coggins7 wrote:Move on...nothing to see here.

An apt description for what goes on between your ears.

Post by **_Sethbag** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 8:20 am

beastie wrote:It does sound like an urban legend, but I think it's possible. There are members with rather extreme ideas regarding sex. Our old stake president believed that sex was for procreation ONLY, and he's not the only member I knew with that belief. (I know this for a fact from his son, and he DID ask people about oral sex, according to the young marrieds I knew) Yes, that is old-fashioned and not as common as it once was, but I can imagine the SP making some sort of similar comment that would make people gasp. People can say all sorts of stupid things on the spur of the moment. So I'm withholding judgment, but will say that I can easily imagine some LDS thinking such a thing, and even saying it out loud.

I had a ward mission leader on my mission who told me that a mission companion of his back in the day was one of those "I wear my garments 24/7" types who really meant it. He'd wear his garments in the shower, and when he needed to wash a particular body part, he'd pull back the garment just enough to gain access to that part, while leaving the garments on otherwise. When he got out of the shower he'd take one leg out of the wet garment, dry it, and put it into the leg hole of a new garment, then repeat with the other leg. He'd do the same with his arms. He was never completely out of his garments.

The ward mission leader told me this guy planned on having sex with his future wife that way too, ie: clothed in the garments of the holy priesthood.

So I don't know if Mark E. Petersen actually really said he'd never seen his wife naked or not. But I do know that it's plausible that he might have said that - such people do exist in this world. And remember, this is the same guy who wrote that "tie your arm to the bedpost" thing to prevent oneself whacking off at night.