We'll just ask the holy ghost?

Post by **_The Nehor** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 5:12 pm

That kid is going to be messed up. You're not going to make your child a genius with her strategy. You're going to give it a nervous breakdown. Overstimulation not good. The results of this may lead to a child who picks up a lot of information but does a lot of harm to the 'well-adjusted' thing. At least according to my child psychologist friend.

When the Holy Ghost becomes an excuse to do what you want, I'd get very suspicious. I find it bracing and tonic when he tells me not to do something I want to. Let's me know he isn't some kind of justification.

Post by **_The Nehor** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 5:14 pm

Moniker wrote:Okay, have to say it. Sorry for the snark.

What in the world compels ADULTS to want to go hang out at Disney World? This is unfathomable to me!

-Edited-

I mean, if I'm going to spend money I want to go see something other than the Mouse. Okay. Sorry. Shushing now.

Seconded....though their parenting skills make me question whether they grew up at all.

Post by **_SatanWasSetUp** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 5:14 pm

Bad parenting, but they sound very young and immature. They're LDS, first child, are really excited about going to DisneyLand, the Holy Ghost confirms their excitement about Disneyland (big surprise), celebrate their anniversary by doing sealings in the temple, and they're kid is an afterthought in all of this. I would guess they're about 20-21 years old, and he's an RM.

_Yoda · Post by **_Yoda** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 5:16 pm

SatanWasSetUp wrote:Bad parenting, but they sound very young and immature. They're LDS, first child, are really excited about going to DisneyLand, the Holy Ghost confirms their excitement about Disneyland (big surprise), celebrate their anniversary by doing sealings in the temple, and they're kid is an afterthought in all of this. I would guess they're about 20-21 years old, and he's an RM.

No, that's the crazy part! GIMR said that they are older than SHE is! GIMR is 26! They are in either their late 20's or early 30's! SCARY!

Post by **_Moniker** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 5:17 pm

SatanWasSetUp wrote:Bad parenting, but they sound very young and immature.

GIMR wrote:

These people are not younger than me (I'm 26).

Oops! Ya beat me to it Liz!

Post by **_Sam Harris** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 5:21 pm

Hey folks, howsitgoin? Happy New Year and all that stuff. I'm so glad to put 2007 in the realm of "history", that was one hellish year for me. Anyways...

'sgood to see you, Liz. I'm touched that you miss me. I'm usually told that if kidnapped, I'd be given back. :-) I've lurked from time to time, but haven't really felt like I could contribute much to the board. Not to mention, I'm still not feeling well, so most days these days I'm in bed before the sun. And it's winter...so that's early, LOL.

I agree overall with LCD2YOU, this isn't a specifically LDS problem, I have a cousin who seems to go through the "new parent" phase every time she procreates (on third child with third babydaddy, oh my). I'm blessed that I have experience with babies, what with the age difference between me and my brothers (32, 26, 18, 10). When I learned to stop wanting to step on the now 18-year-old, I became fascinated with taking care of him. I adore children, and for the most part they tolerate me. It just got to me that they were willing to ignore the doctors and nurses who were working to cure their child, in lieu of asking what amounted to their own personal wishes what to do in this situation (the holy ghost). The mutual friend was trying to defend this technique, and I silenced him (not intentionally) by telling him that though I didn't have his version of the holy ghost, I'd held many a child to my breast, and I was afraid for this one. He didn't know what to say after that, either that or he knew I was about to bite him.

With regards to that pompous individual, he's so righteous (in his eyes), but when I asked him to pray for this baby, he commented that he would add that to his "already long list of prayers". Way to set an example for the heathen world, pal.

I can only imagine what little buddy felt this past weekend, my stress level was off the charts, because I wasn't sure what came next. At one point I asked the dad, "so what airline do we fly out on?".

His answer: "I don't know". WHAT THE HECK?

Post by **_Bond...James Bond** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 5:23 pm

SatanWasSetUp wrote:Bad parenting, but they sound very young and immature. They're LDS, first child, are really excited about going to DisneyLand, the Holy Ghost confirms their excitement about Disneyland (big surprise), celebrate their anniversary by doing sealings in the temple, and they're kid is an afterthought in all of this. I would guess they're about 20-21 years old, and he's an RM.

I don't think they're that young, but I'd say they are very immature.

The sad thing is that there are many parents (and I use that world liberally) that are immature and just assume that their kids will be taken care of (usually by some poor unlucky person). Some people don't ever grow up is my opinion. 1 kid or 10 kids won't change the maturity level of some people.

Post by **_Sam Harris** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 5:29 pm

Yeah, about the age, I think they're both either bordering 30 or at least. I just got the very creepy feeling that I was dealing with two children.

I was upset that they didn't listen to me when I told them at 10pm on saturday that I wasn't feeling good. I'm at the point right now that if I don't stop when my body tells me to, once it stops me on its own, I'm paying for my stubbornness for days. I'm still "recuperating" from my vacation.

But then I heard that the baby was sick! I was livid.

The mom commented through the entire weekend how taken the baby was with me, and how he seemed to ignore her. Well, if you have to make up songs for every little thing you do to him ("changing, changing", "eating, eating", etc...it's well...redundant), and are always in his face, he might get tired of you.

I ticked my goddaughter off once, and she didn't look at me for the rest of the afternoon. Whe was about five months old at the time.

Nehor, I wish you could speak to this woman. Seriously, there isn't even a mobile above his bed. I saw her looking at the one that was over one of the hospital cribs...maybe she'll lighten up and get him one.

The last day in the hospital, this wagon came by, it's from an organization called Jarrett's Toy Cart, and they offered the baby a toy. The first thing that came out of the mother's mouth was, "do you have anything educational?". You should have seen the face of the volunteer. I picked out a toy for him. I am scared for him.

I'm sure after this weekend the parents think I'm the worst thing alive (I was silent a great deal, trying to hold back my anger), and I'm sure my former friend will encourage them in this. Mind you, he has no kids himself.

I'll call in a few days to see how he is, but as far as the parents...I've reached my limit. The incident with the baby is only the tip of the iceberg. Dealing with them was like dealing with two Borats...but not in a funny way. Former friend chalked up their behavior to culture, but I've travelled, and I don't think their behavior has anything to do with being from Russia and Ukraine.

_Yoda · Post by **_Yoda** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 5:39 pm

I'll tell you where the REAL blessing was, GIMR. It was the fact that YOU were there to help with that baby!

Post by **_ozemc** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 5:40 pm

liz3564 wrote:I'll tell you where the REAL blessing was, GIMR. It was the fact that YOU were there to help with that baby!

AMEN, Liz!

Those people were completely clueless.