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GIMR wrote:Yeah, about the age, I think they're both either bordering 30 or at least. I just got the very creepy feeling that I was dealing with two children.

I was upset that they didn't listen to me when I told them at 10pm on saturday that I wasn't feeling good. I'm at the point right now that if I don't stop when my body tells me to, once it stops me on its own, I'm paying for my stubbornness for days. I'm still "recuperating" from my vacation.

But then I heard that the baby was sick! I was livid.

The mom commented through the entire weekend how taken the baby was with me, and how he seemed to ignore her. Well, if you have to make up songs for every little thing you do to him ("changing, changing", "eating, eating", etc...it's well...redundant), and are always in his face, he might get tired of you.

I ticked my goddaughter off once, and she didn't look at me for the rest of the afternoon. Whe was about five months old at the time.

Nehor, I wish you could speak to this woman. Seriously, there isn't even a mobile above his bed. I saw her looking at the one that was over one of the hospital cribs...maybe she'll lighten up and get him one.

The last day in the hospital, this wagon came by, it's from an organization called Jarrett's Toy Cart, and they offered the baby a toy. The first thing that came out of the mother's mouth was, "do you have anything educational?". You should have seen the face of the volunteer. I picked out a toy for him. I am scared for him.

I'm sure after this weekend the parents think I'm the worst thing alive (I was silent a great deal, trying to hold back my anger), and I'm sure my former friend will encourage them in this. Mind you, he has no kids himself.

I'll call in a few days to see how he is, but as far as the parents...I've reached my limit. The incident with the baby is only the tip of the iceberg. Dealing with them was like dealing with two Borats...but not in a funny way. Former friend chalked up their behavior to culture, but I've travelled, and I don't think their behavior has anything to do with being from Russia and Ukraine.


She at least seems to treat the baby as a doll/experiment in social engineering. I've known a few very bright kids. They get that way generally by being crippled somewhere else. Some of this might come from nurture. From what I've read this kind of child-rearing comes from a sense of missed entitlement on the part of the parents. They feel that they weren't raised in such a way to maximize their own potential so they compensate with their child. On the bright side unless the mother is REALLY dedicated to this program it will probably fall apart. Particularly if they have another child in the next few years. Terrible twos combined with a baby needing attention. Yeah.....probably going to lose the flash cards.

I know if I was in the hospital in that situation I would be breaking out the consecrated oil, probably start fasting, and spend time with the child, not want to go back to a kiddie theme park. This is a little snide but I suspect that anyone who wants to have their wedding at a theme park probably shouldn't have kids. ;)
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liz3564 wrote:I'll tell you where the REAL blessing was, GIMR. It was the fact that YOU were there to help with that baby!


Awww *blushes* Little guy is my buddy. I've grown quite fond of him, though I always do of any baby I see. But it was so comforting to see him smile that day...he has the prettiest blue eyes, and the pupils get all big when he looks at you with emotion. It's adorable.

:-)

It's worth dealing with the parents just to see him.
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ozemc wrote:
liz3564 wrote:I'll tell you where the REAL blessing was, GIMR. It was the fact that YOU were there to help with that baby!

AMEN, Liz!

Those people were completely clueless.


Thanks, Ozemec. My mom was laughing at me because she knew just how morally outraged I felt, given that I've been a nanny. I didn't want to interfere too much, but at the same time, how could I not say anything?

I hope this has been a growing experience for them both. I hope.
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How is the baby doing now? Is he on any type of medication at the moment? They can't prescribe antibiotics, can they, since it's a viral infection?
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The Nehor wrote:
GIMR wrote:Yeah, about the age, I think they're both either bordering 30 or at least. I just got the very creepy feeling that I was dealing with two children.

I was upset that they didn't listen to me when I told them at 10pm on saturday that I wasn't feeling good. I'm at the point right now that if I don't stop when my body tells me to, once it stops me on its own, I'm paying for my stubbornness for days. I'm still "recuperating" from my vacation.

But then I heard that the baby was sick! I was livid.

The mom commented through the entire weekend how taken the baby was with me, and how he seemed to ignore her. Well, if you have to make up songs for every little thing you do to him ("changing, changing", "eating, eating", etc...it's well...redundant), and are always in his face, he might get tired of you.

I ticked my goddaughter off once, and she didn't look at me for the rest of the afternoon. Whe was about five months old at the time.

Nehor, I wish you could speak to this woman. Seriously, there isn't even a mobile above his bed. I saw her looking at the one that was over one of the hospital cribs...maybe she'll lighten up and get him one.

The last day in the hospital, this wagon came by, it's from an organization called Jarrett's Toy Cart, and they offered the baby a toy. The first thing that came out of the mother's mouth was, "do you have anything educational?". You should have seen the face of the volunteer. I picked out a toy for him. I am scared for him.

I'm sure after this weekend the parents think I'm the worst thing alive (I was silent a great deal, trying to hold back my anger), and I'm sure my former friend will encourage them in this. Mind you, he has no kids himself.

I'll call in a few days to see how he is, but as far as the parents...I've reached my limit. The incident with the baby is only the tip of the iceberg. Dealing with them was like dealing with two Borats...but not in a funny way. Former friend chalked up their behavior to culture, but I've travelled, and I don't think their behavior has anything to do with being from Russia and Ukraine.


She at least seems to treat the baby as a doll/experiment in social engineering. I've known a few very bright kids. They get that way generally by being crippled somewhere else. Some of this might come from nurture. From what I've read this kind of child-rearing comes from a sense of missed entitlement on the part of the parents. They feel that they weren't raised in such a way to maximize their own potential so they compensate with their child. On the bright side unless the mother is REALLY dedicated to this program it will probably fall apart. Particularly if they have another child in the next few years. Terrible twos combined with a baby needing attention. Yeah.....probably going to lose the flash cards.

I know if I was in the hospital in that situation I would be breaking out the consecrated oil, probably start fasting, and spend time with the child, not want to go back to a kiddie theme park. This is a little snide but I suspect that anyone who wants to have their wedding at a theme park probably shouldn't have kids. ;)


You know, I wonder if the father even blessed his child. He spent a lot of time at the hotel sleeping (his wife thought this was wonderful, because he hadn't slept much since the baby came, as if that's strange), and was concerned with making sure they had some kind of anniversary. At that thought I kind of brightened, because I felt if I could get them to stay put, sure, go get some takeout and some Martinelli's...but at least they'd be there.

He was at one point sulking because I wouldn't take over for a few hours. He said to me, "I don't know if New Years is important to you". Yes, it is...but my child would be more so. I used some examples from my life of firstly, how you don't want to be apart from a loved one in the hospital like that for long (I had to say my goodbyes to my Dad on the phone, and didn't even realize what I was doing...but I had no car), and also how you drop what you're doing when your kid is sick like that. I took sick on my parents' anniversary this year, and even though I wasn't hospitalized, they stayed close.

I really hope that these two grow up soon.
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GIMR wrote:He was at one point sulking because I wouldn't take over for a few hours. He said to me, "I don't know if New Years is important to you". Yes, it is...but my child would be more so. I used some examples from my life of firstly, how you don't want to be apart from a loved one in the hospital like that for long (I had to say my goodbyes to my Dad on the phone, and didn't even realize what I was doing...but I had no car), and also how you drop what you're doing when your kid is sick like that. I took sick on my parents' anniversary this year, and even though I wasn't hospitalized, they stayed close.

I really hope that these two grow up soon.


The more you talk about these two, the more I want to slap them upside the head, and I don't even know them.
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liz3564 wrote:How is the baby doing now? Is he on any type of medication at the moment? They can't prescribe antibiotics, can they, since it's a viral infection?


Firstly, I love your sig line, LOL. What the hell?

Um, they had him on a nebulizer. I think they were giving him antibiotics while in the hospital. I'm not sure what the medication is that he's on now.

I'll give the parents a few days escape from me, then I'll call and see how they're doing. Plus I want to send little one some toys...
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GIMR wrote:Firstly, I love your sig line, LOL. What the hell?


My idea of a play on words. Runtu said in another thread, "Coggins can hurl what he wants to at me."

I rather liked the first three words. LOL
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liz3564 wrote:
GIMR wrote:He was at one point sulking because I wouldn't take over for a few hours. He said to me, "I don't know if New Years is important to you". Yes, it is...but my child would be more so. I used some examples from my life of firstly, how you don't want to be apart from a loved one in the hospital like that for long (I had to say my goodbyes to my Dad on the phone, and didn't even realize what I was doing...but I had no car), and also how you drop what you're doing when your kid is sick like that. I took sick on my parents' anniversary this year, and even though I wasn't hospitalized, they stayed close.

I really hope that these two grow up soon.


The more you talk about these two, the more I want to slap them upside the head, and I don't even know them.


YOU....that's just in dealing with the baby that I'm describing. These two come across as people who are just unable to sense other people's wants or feelings. They asked me when we first went into the parks what I wanted to do. I told them that I wanted to avoid the parades and do the rides, since the lines would be shorter then. We ended up sitting out for the fireworks and the last parade...why? Because they wanted to. The camera flashes gave me a killer migraine (which is now fading today...five days later), and I spent $75 on a park where I only got to really see two attractions.

They're like huge children. Not only that, but they had a hard time listening. I asked them, when I went on the Haunted Mansion ride, not to buy me any food, as I have a food allergy, and due to the fact that my mom fed me with a belt nearby as a child to make sure I'd eat, I'm weird about food. I'm picky, and I'd rather not eat than hurl up your dinner. They called me while I was in line to tell me that they'd bought me something anyway. Russian tradition. Not only that, but when at their place (which is why I won't be going very often in future), they force food on me when I say I'm not hungry. I don't want to offend...but how hardheaded can you be?

The last straw of the weekend? The husband giving his GPS device to the cab driver, as if no one in the car new how to get home. I told him to put it away, and he stuck it to the window right by my ear. I wanted to smack him. He then proceeded to make kissy faces with his wife.

I have too much patience, I think.
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liz3564 wrote:
GIMR wrote:Firstly, I love your sig line, LOL. What the hell?


My idea of a play on words. Runtu said in another thread, "Coggins can hurl what he wants to at me."

I rather liked the first three words. LOL


*dying laughing*
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