GIMR wrote:Nehor, how do you know when you're cut off? Because from what I see in TD's post...there are some people who seem to have had that happen (if their judgment of other's behavior can be applied to themselves), and yet they're not aware.
U just more in tune than the rest of us? ;-)
I can feel the Holy Ghost regularly. A simple act of concentration and I can check. Yep, still there. I'm used to it but can tell when it's gone. Now in my darkest moments I want it gone. It does not seem to work this way with most people. But then I sat down with God and I asked him to start and stop on time so I could work out what was what. He obliged courteously so I have a good baseline to work from. Most people don't do that either.
I'm coming to the conclusion that Nehor is spoofing us and has been all along. I mean (God bless you Nehor), this is just a little too bizzare.
That's what I thought when I first thought of it. However God has a habit of doing bizarre things....he created me, for crying out loud. I saw nothing inherently sinful about it so I thought I'd give it a shot. Am I not supposed to do it simply because no GA has ever suggested it? Seems like a stupid reason to me. Too often the cultural norm in the Church when seeking something is to question why they should receive it. I prefer the, "Why not?" approach.
"Surely he knows that DCP, The Nehor, Lamanite, and other key apologists..." -Scratch clarifying my status in apologetics "I admit it; I'm a petty, petty man." -Some Schmo
I've come to think of "the spirit" as an excuse for taking responsibility for one's life and also a justification for poor behavior in others.
Too often I see it used as - well, this is something I would normally have the good sense not to do BUT the HG confirmed that it was correct.
When one believes in a God that commands adultery, murder, theft, slavery, rape, where does it end? Who are you to say the 9-11 hijackers weren't just following God's command? I call BS on bad behavior and poor choices. Just own it.
Insert ironic quote from fellow board member here.
MishMagnet wrote:I've come to think of "the spirit" as an excuse for taking responsibility for one's life and also a justification for poor behavior in others.
Too often I see it used as - well, this is something I would normally have the good sense not to do BUT the HG confirmed that it was correct.
When one believes in a God that commands adultery, murder, theft, slavery, rape, where does it end? Who are you to say the 9-11 hijackers weren't just following God's command? I call BS on bad behavior and poor choices. Just own it.
I do. I can no more blame God for my actions than I can blame my parents for what they told me to do. Use the Spirit as part of your decision-making process, not as an excuse for it. Fear anyone who routinely tells them God told them to tell you to do something or who attends Church meetings and routinely declares revelations as to what the meeting should decide.
"Surely he knows that DCP, The Nehor, Lamanite, and other key apologists..." -Scratch clarifying my status in apologetics "I admit it; I'm a petty, petty man." -Some Schmo
The Nehor wrote: Fear anyone who routinely tells them God told them to tell you to do something or who attends Church meetings and routinely declares revelations as to what the meeting should decide.
Like Joseph Smith?
LMAO.
Insert ironic quote from fellow board member here.
The Nehor wrote: Fear anyone who routinely tells them God told them to tell you to do something or who attends Church meetings and routinely declares revelations as to what the meeting should decide.
Like Joseph Smith?
LMAO.
Unless of course they claim to be an actual Prophet. In which case you get a testimony of their calling and then you proceed to test their words using the Holy Ghost.
"Surely he knows that DCP, The Nehor, Lamanite, and other key apologists..." -Scratch clarifying my status in apologetics "I admit it; I'm a petty, petty man." -Some Schmo
What would disqualify someone from receiving inspiration, or understanding information from HG?
What would help folks be more able to hear messages of inspiration?
I'm wondering because...
There are folks who claim to KNOW of truth based on their witness of the HG yet these folks may be enormously prideful, cruel, nasty, mean-spirited, angry, and rude.
Some folks may be living lives that are not in harmony with the teachings of Jesus, sinning in all sorts of ways and yet they believe God is talking to them and telling them one thing of another.
We know of priesthood bearing men who are commiting all sorts of sinful acts and yet they are still blessing others with their power.
There are those who are most likely obeying (say prophets and leaders), who think they are inspired when they clearly are not.
There are those wonderful, humble, and obedient folks who do not get the whispering of the spirit confirming the LDS is the one and only true church.
As a believer I had the notion that the more humble, obedient, kind, loving, Christlike, the more the windows of heaven were open, but obviously I was completely wrong about this. (I actually currently do still hold a version of this idea as true...smile).
What were you taught? What do members believe?
:-)
~dancer~
Reminds me of a Q. I've asked to to my daddy when I was 5 or six;
"Dad how come we always make Snowman"?
"Because son" he said; "Only Snowman has the snow-balls"
harmony wrote: Moses killed a man. Jonah was a coward. Noah got drunk and slept with his daughters. Elijah sicced bears on children.
WHAT? This occurred according to the Bible? Really?
No. Harmony got two stories confused.
"Surely he knows that DCP, The Nehor, Lamanite, and other key apologists..." -Scratch clarifying my status in apologetics "I admit it; I'm a petty, petty man." -Some Schmo
The Nehor wrote:Elijah sicced bears on young men, not children.
Oh, I guess that makes things all right them. It'd be perfectly fine for President Hinckley to sic a few grizzleys on those anti-mormon protesters that show up around general conference time.
That's General Leo. He could be my friend if he weren't my enemy. eritis sicut dii I support NCMO