What Does Mr. Scratch believe?

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Re: What Does Mr. Scratch believe?

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Mister Scratch wrote:I recently received a friendly letter from my SP, if that tells you anything.


Friendly letter to appear at a Disciplinary Council to discuss recent allegations of beating people to death out of boredom or friendly as in inviting you to serve as Stake Hymnbook Coordinator at the fireside this Sunday? ;)
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Re: What Does Mr. Scratch believe?

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Mister Scratch wrote:
Jason Bourne wrote:Since almost all Scratch's threads are about someone else I thought I would let one be about him.

So now Mr. Scratch

I am curious.


Hi there, Jason. You know, I was just thinking that it was high time someone fired up a thread devoted strictly to discussing me and my apparently "mysterious" nature.

What is it that YOU BELIEVE? Ray has implied you are LDS. I must say that surprised me. Course I am LDS and I am not always positive on LDS things.

I point out things that I take issue with or that raise concerns for me. Yet I do not think all is bad and am happy to stay a worshiping LDS.

But you never ever are positive about anything LDS, least that I have seen.


Sure I am. For example, I support positive change in the Church. I feel very "positively" about such things as granting the priesthood to women.

So, tell us, as you accuse Ray of hypocrisy, where is it you stand on the LDS Church?


Where I "stand" should be quite plain on the basis of my posts.

You a member? TR holder?


I see no reason why I should tell you this. Besides, would you believe what I said? Am I supposed to scan and post a photo of my TR, or what? I recently received a friendly letter from my SP, if that tells you anything.



Nice Dodge Scratch

Yes I would believe you. I have been pretty open about where I stand. What do you fear? And if I base where you stand on your posts I would say you most likely are exmo.
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Re: What Does Mr. Scratch believe?

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Jason Bourne wrote:Nice Dodge Scratch

Yes I would believe you. I have been pretty open about where I stand. What do you fear? And if I base where you stand on your posts I would say you most likely are exmo.


Well then, there you go. Have fun with that. In the meantime, I will not be stating anything with any more frankness or candor that GBH. The day that GBH comes right out and discusses LDS doctrines with clarity and openness is the day that I tell you what my Church status is. That *is* what you're actually asking me about, right? In other words, you don't really care about my actual beliefs but are really just more interested in whether or not I stand to get ex'ed/disfellowshipped?
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Re: What Does Mr. Scratch believe?

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Mister Scratch wrote:The day that GBH comes right out and discusses LDS doctrines with clarity and openness is the day that I tell you what my Church status is.

I think he's pretty clear about the atonement and other doctrines we share with most Christians. Can we at least get that much openness out of you? ;)
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Re: What Does Mr. Scratch believe?

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Mister Scratch wrote:
Jason Bourne wrote:Nice Dodge Scratch

Yes I would believe you. I have been pretty open about where I stand. What do you fear? And if I base where you stand on your posts I would say you most likely are exmo.


Well then, there you go. Have fun with that. In the meantime, I will not be stating anything with any more frankness or candor that GBH. The day that GBH comes right out and discusses LDS doctrines with clarity and openness is the day that I tell you what my Church status is. That *is* what you're actually asking me about, right? In other words, you don't really care about my actual beliefs but are really just more interested in whether or not I stand to get ex'ed/disfellowshipped?


No, beliefs are fine. Your Church status doesn't matter much to me.
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Re: What Does Mr. Scratch believe?

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Mister Scratch wrote:
Jason Bourne wrote:Nice Dodge Scratch

Yes I would believe you. I have been pretty open about where I stand. What do you fear? And if I base where you stand on your posts I would say you most likely are exmo.


Well then, there you go. Have fun with that. In the meantime, I will not be stating anything with any more frankness or candor that GBH. The day that GBH comes right out and discusses LDS doctrines with clarity and openness is the day that I tell you what my Church status is. That *is* what you're actually asking me about, right? In other words, you don't really care about my actual beliefs but are really just more interested in whether or not I stand to get ex'ed/disfellowshipped?



It is quite simple.

Are you LDS?

If yes do you hold a TR?

Do you participate?

I can say yes to all three.

And I have issues with the Church though seemingly not nearly as many as you.

Not out on a witch hunt scratch. Just trying to figure out where you are at.
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Re: What Does Mr. Scratch believe?

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Jason Bourne wrote:It is quite simple.

Are you LDS?

If yes do you hold a TR?

Do you participate?

I can say yes to all three.

And I have issues with the Church though seemingly not nearly as many as you.

Not out on a witch hunt scratch. Just trying to figure out where you are at.


But why, Jason? Why does it matter? Further, your claim about the "witch hunt" seems disingenuous considering that fact that you began this whole line of inquiry in the wake of my jskains/Ray A threads.

I am LDS as anyone else here. That's all you need to know.
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Re: What Does Mr. Scratch believe?

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Mister Scratch wrote:I am LDS as anyone else here.


Maybe even moreso than some here. ;)
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Re: What Does Mr. Scratch believe?

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Mister Scratch wrote:
Jason Bourne wrote:It is quite simple.

Are you LDS?

If yes do you hold a TR?

Do you participate?

I can say yes to all three.

And I have issues with the Church though seemingly not nearly as many as you.

Not out on a witch hunt scratch. Just trying to figure out where you are at.


But why, Jason? Why does it matter? Further, your claim about the "witch hunt" seems disingenuous considering that fact that you began this whole line of inquiry in the wake of my jskains/Ray A threads.

I am LDS as anyone else here. That's all you need to know.


Another nice dodge. You should run for political office.


No witch hunt. I just find it odd that you smear many in your travels and many of your threads are character assassinations yet you are too cowardly to state where you stand.

I am not surprised and rather expected this from you.

Carry on.
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Re: What Does Mr. Scratch believe?

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Jason Bourne wrote:
Another nice dodge. You should run for political office.


No witch hunt. I just find it odd that you smear many in your travels and many of your threads are character assassinations yet you are too cowardly to state where you stand.

I am not surprised and rather expected this from you.

Carry on.


Jason---are you really this stupid? It is quite dumb to state your "position" if you are a critic, since the mindset of many TBMs is one that relies very heavily on stereotypes and pigeonholes. How would it affect your (or anyone's) views if I stated, "I am a TR holder!" or, "I am a GA!", or, "I am an exmo"? How does it matter? Neither you, nor anyone else has ever stated why. Usually you fall back on the predictable and unrelentingly lame rejoinder, "Well, you discuss other people, so you should have to say!" No; I don't think so. This does nothing to explain how/why my stating my Church status is of any significance or importance whatsoever. I have only ever relied upon what people write online. There is nothing especially "brave", as you seem to imply, in posting photos of one's self, or writing about one's "longhaired weiner," or discussing how one gossiped about a well-known Mormon historian's homosexuality. How is this "brave", Jason? I'm curious to know, since your numbskulled formulation clearly needs this to be true in order for your "coward" label to stick. You might make a case for how discussing this information is somehow "mean" or "cheap," but that's not really what you're doing. Instead, you're trying to argue that failure to post personal information is "cowardly," thus implying that proactive posting of such information is therefore "brave." So, please, tell me how it is so "brave" for you---or anyone else---to post personal information. I can't wait for this. I'll be sitting here patiently, waiting for you to enlighten me.
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