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_solomarineris
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You just don't get it, come back in three days!

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This is how GoodK's conversation was finally terminated.
In her last sentence, she crossed the ultimate line of offending our big, all-knowing precious guru DCP.
QUOTE(Daniel Peterson @ Jan 4 2008, 12:16 PM)

Sometimes. But not intrinsically. (The National Anti-Mormon League certainly didn't intend, by choosing that title, to stigmatize itself. Robert McKay, formerly of Utah Missions, Inc., surely doesn't think himself a bad person for opposing Mormonism.) By contrast, the term cult, as it is used by sectarian polemicists, conveys virtually nothing but its "strong negative charge."

The fact that a term distinguishes one group from another is not only not enough, by itself, to make it illegitimate, it is essential to the nature of language that it so distinguish. The adjective happy distinguishes the noun it modifies from nouns modified by the adjective unhappy. Non-Mormons are not Mormons. Baseball players, to the extent that they're baseball players, are not football players. Grasses are not trees. Reptiles are not mammals. Blue isn't red. Chinese isn't Spanish.

The fundamental problem with polemical use of the term cult is that it is pejorative and not only distinguishes between groups but (very strongly) stigmatizes one of the groups by verbal legerdemain rather than by analysis and without any clear definition. Linguistically, it thus becomes closer to a grunt or an expletive than a content-term.

Can the word anti-Mormon be used pejoratively? Yes. Of course. Many words can. But cult, in the sense in which it is used by sectarian critics of Mormonism, seems to have no sense but a pejorative one.
And, of course, my position is that no coherent definition of cult, in the relevant sense, is on offer.
Precisely.

Whereas, by contrast, the clear meaning of anti-Mormon, which can be very simply deduced from the clear meaning of the adjective and adjectival noun Mormon and the clear meaning of the prefix anti, is neither arbitrary nor ad hoc nor difficult to understand.

That people can disagree about when to apply the term anti-Mormon is no more lethal to the utility of the term than is the fact that people can and do disagree just as easily about when to apply terms like good, beautiful, tall, convincing, orthodox, useful, delicious, fair, plausible, long, entertaining, bright, ridiculous, important, rich, difficult, and worthwhile.
Exactly. And intrinsically so.
And your little excursion plainly didn't accomplish much, either.

Never mind. I'm busy.

GoodK
I think it has. You just fail (intentionally, I'm sure) to make the connection. I'm busy as well. I just expected more of the Professor Dumbeldore of the forum.

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I think GoodK is lucky to get only three days.

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Post by _Moniker »

Ray, who do you think GoodK was? And was anyone else fascinated by the Arby's dialogue? That was the best part, for me.
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Moniker wrote:Ray, who do you think GoodK was? And was anyone else fascinated by the Arby's dialogue? That was the best part, for me.


I have no idea, Mon. But the board policy is plainly laid out. That's why the mods said, "you just don't get it".
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Ray A wrote:
Moniker wrote:Ray, who do you think GoodK was? And was anyone else fascinated by the Arby's dialogue? That was the best part, for me.


I have no idea, Mon. But the board policy is plainly laid out. That's why the mods said, "you just don't get it".


Oh, I don't care about the policy. The only thing I'm interested in is the intrigue!!
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Post by _Scottie »

Ray, perhaps you can explain what I did to warrant a suspension?

I'm still not sure.
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Scottie wrote:Ray, perhaps you can explain what I did to warrant a suspension?

I'm still not sure.


Were you posting as GoodK? Excuse my ignorance. I don't follow MAD, or even this board, as much as I once did.
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Post by _charity »

Scottie wrote:Ray, perhaps you can explain what I did to warrant a suspension?

I'm still not sure.


Do you think possibly that calling God irrational, a tyrant, cruel, petty, and gluttonous might have had something to do with it, just maybe?
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charity wrote:
Scottie wrote:Ray, perhaps you can explain what I did to warrant a suspension?

I'm still not sure.


Do you think possibly that calling God irrational, a tyrant, cruel, petty, and gluttonous might have had something to do with it, just maybe?


I would think that is a very good possibility!
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Post by _moksha »

charity wrote:
Scottie wrote:Ray, perhaps you can explain what I did to warrant a suspension?

I'm still not sure.


Do you think possibly that calling God irrational, a tyrant, cruel, petty, and gluttonous might have had something to do with it, just maybe?


All that by the Professor Dumbeldore reference? Hey, careful of that gluttonous comment - the holiday season is just barely over.
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