Who Knows wrote:With a son turning 8 in a few weeks, it's baptism time in the Who Knows household. So with that, brings the wonderful experience of the sobbing parents - since daddy isn't doing the baptism, and grandpa (my dad) is, instead. The joyous times of christmas and the new year are behind us. It's time, instead, to focus on the tragedy that is Who Knows' loss of faith, and dissapointment to his family.
Isn't the LDS church wonderful?
I hear your dramatic appeal, and wish to helpfully ask what plans you are making to improve things for yourself and others over the next few weeks?
Who Knows wrote:With a son turning 8 in a few weeks, it's baptism time in the Who Knows household. So with that, brings the wonderful experience of the sobbing parents - since daddy isn't doing the baptism, and grandpa (my dad) is, instead. The joyous times of christmas and the new year are behind us. It's time, instead, to focus on the tragedy that is Who Knows' loss of faith, and dissapointment to his family.
Isn't the LDS church wonderful?
I hear your dramatic appeal, and wish to helpfully ask what plans you are making to improve things for yourself and others over the next few weeks?
Thanks, -Wade Englund-
LOL You asked. I just started giving suggestions. ;)
Same old wade. I ignored everything after those first 5 words. Sorry, try again if you'd like.
WK: "Joseph Smith asserted that the Book of Mormon peoples were the original inhabitants of the americas"
Will Schryver: "No, he didn’t." 3/19/08
Still waiting for Will to back this up...
Same old wade. I ignored everything after those first 5 words. Sorry, try again if you'd like.
I appreciate the second chance--particularly since I believe you well worth it.
Perhaps if I use some of your own words, you may be less inclined to ignore what comes thereafter. So let me phrase it this way: Given the wonderful way you described your pending situation, what plans are you making to improve things for yourself and others over the next few weeks?
Thanks, -Wade Englund-
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I suggest you go mad. Run through the streets naked throwing rocks at mailboxes and accusing trees of bestiality. After that, I doubt not baptizing your children will be a major issue.
For added fun, wear a funny hat while doing this.
"Surely he knows that DCP, The Nehor, Lamanite, and other key apologists..." -Scratch clarifying my status in apologetics "I admit it; I'm a petty, petty man." -Some Schmo
Who Knows wrote:With a son turning 8 in a few weeks, it's baptism time in the Who Knows household. So with that, brings the wonderful experience of the sobbing parents - since daddy isn't doing the baptism, and grandpa (my dad) is, instead. The joyous times of Christmas and the new year are behind us. It's time, instead, to focus on the tragedy that is Who Knows' loss of faith, and disappointment to his family.
Isn't the LDS church wonderful?
I think the second counselor in the ward baptized me, since my family was not religious. My dad did not even go to it. He was being true to his principles I guess. From my point of view, it would have been nice to have him be there for me. Your son will appreciate your being there. My advice is to not worry about anything your family may say and just be there to hug your son.
I went through this with my daughter last year. We made it a great experience for her.
charity wrote:I'm sorry your family members are overdramatic. My husband baptized one of our granddaughters because the father is no longer TBM. It was a great occasion. Nobody sniffed and cried.
Tell you wife for me to grow up and stop acting like a melodramatic teenager. It is what it is, and whining isn't going to make it better.
Oh, yes, and you can also tell her that everything works out all right in the end. If it isn't all right now, it's because it isn't the end.
Oooh, can I try Charity's stereotypical christian approach?
Who Knows, grow some balls. This is your child and he cannot be baptized without your consent. You have rights here. The grandparents do not get to come in here, make you feel bad and usurp the parental role in this situation. Tell your family you feel it is not in the best interests for the child to be baptized at such a young age into the church. Cancel the baptism. Son may feel disappointed, but what the heck. He is 8. Disappointment is an inevitable fact of life and he might as well get used to it. Then kick the jackass grandparents to the barn. It is none of their business anyway.
"I think one of the great mysteries of the gospel is that anyone still believes it." Sethbag, MADB, Feb 22 2008
Trinity wrote: Who Knows, grow some balls. This is your child and he cannot be baptized without your consent. You have rights here. The grandparents do not get to come in here, make you feel bad and usurp the parental role in this situation. Tell your family you feel it is not in the best interests for the child to be baptized at such a young age into the church. Cancel the baptism. Son may feel disappointed, but what the heck. He is 8. Disappointment is an inevitable fact of life and he might as well get used to it. Then kick the jackass grandparents to the barn. It is none of their business anyway.
Principle versus family happiness with principle smashing family happiness and unity? Why would Who Knows want to play that game?
Trinity wrote: Who Knows, grow some balls. This is your child and he cannot be baptized without your consent. You have rights here. The grandparents do not get to come in here, make you feel bad and usurp the parental role in this situation. Tell your family you feel it is not in the best interests for the child to be baptized at such a young age into the church. Cancel the baptism. Son may feel disappointed, but what the heck. He is 8. Disappointment is an inevitable fact of life and he might as well get used to it. Then kick the jackass grandparents to the barn. It is none of their business anyway.
Principle versus family happiness with principle smashing family happiness and unity? Why would Who Knows want to play that game?
moksha, pssssst. Did you not notice I was assuming Charity's stereotypical christian role? ;)
I would never suggest that. Although I am not sure how you construe weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth to be family happiness and unity.
"I think one of the great mysteries of the gospel is that anyone still believes it." Sethbag, MADB, Feb 22 2008