Doctor Steuss wrote: How terrible if they not only lose their parents, but have to enter the maze of social services as well.
Do you think those children would be better off, on the streets?
Of course not.
Social services, including foster care, provides a valuable necessity for children whose parents are unable to care for them for whatever reason (death and jail come to mind). It's definitely not a perfect system, but it's certainly better than the alternative.
Indeed it is a valuable service, and better than the alternative. I just feel that if possible, the children would be better off with relatives. Especially during the aftermath.
"Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." ~Charles Bukowski
Moniker wrote:How very sad. The article doesn't mention if the children were witness to the act. I certainly hope they weren't.
You would certainly have to assume that they were. Why would she go to church without them?
Unless, perhaps the father had them for the weekend and arranged for them to be watched?
No, she had the children. I think to myself, if there is a God, it's times like these that I hope He/She would intervene and shield their vision, or erase their minds or, in some way, comfort them. How tragic.
"If False, it is one of the most cunning, wicked, bold, deep-laid impositions ever palmed upon the world, calculated to deceive and ruin millions… " - Orson Pratt on The Book of Mormon
Scottie, I thought it possible that she would have had the children with her. Yet, I wasn't certain, since it wasn't mentioned in the article, and I didn't want to be presumptuous.
Tenbear -- I agree. Hopefully since they're so young this memory will be something that fades.
Of course just the knowledge that their father murdered their mother is something that will most likely follow them forever. It's so tragic.
I've worked with a lot of children who witnessed horrible violence from their fathers toward their mothers.
For some, their lives are seriouslly harmed for the rest of their lives.
Others manage better.
For all, it is life altering.
For those who think domestic violence does not often impact children or women for the rest of their lives... take note. Regardless of what you think, a dead mother and a father in jail has a life long impact on a child's life.
~dancer~
"The search for reality is the most dangerous of all undertakings for it destroys the world in which you live." Nisargadatta Maharaj
truth dancer wrote:I've worked with a lot of children who witnessed horrible violence from their fathers toward their mothers.
For some, their lives are seriouslly harmed for the rest of their lives.
Others manage better.
For all, it is life altering.
For those who think domestic violence does not often impact children or women for the rest of their lives... take note. Regardless of what you think, a dead mother and a father in jail has a life long impact on a child's life.
~dancer~
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Who on earth .... is there really anyone out there who would think that domestic violence does not impact children? Honestly?
"If False, it is one of the most cunning, wicked, bold, deep-laid impositions ever palmed upon the world, calculated to deceive and ruin millions… " - Orson Pratt on The Book of Mormon
Several reports mentioned that her mother was right next to her.
I just read on MDB that there is an alleged connection between the guy and RfM? Does anyone know more about that?
I just can't imagine the rage that would compel this guy to point blank unload a dozen bullets into his wife. It sure would be nice to hear his side of the story so some blanks can be filled in.
"I think one of the great mysteries of the gospel is that anyone still believes it." Sethbag, MADB, Feb 22 2008
Trinity wrote:Several reports mentioned that her mother was right next to her.
I just read on MDB that there is an alleged connection between the guy and RfM? Does anyone know more about that?
I just can't imagine the rage that would compel this guy to point blank unload a dozen bullets into his wife. It sure would be nice to hear his side of the story so some blanks can be filled in.
I believe you meant "MAD" not MDB?
Though I think the thread at RfM was started by a troll, I don't doubt that he participated at RfM. Like I said earlier, the guy was a recent (over the last year or so) ex-mo, according to my real life inside sources (ooooh, now i know how scratch feels - so cool).
WK: "Joseph Smith asserted that the Book of Mormon peoples were the original inhabitants of the americas"
Will Schryver: "No, he didn’t." 3/19/08
Still waiting for Will to back this up...
truth dancer wrote:I've worked with a lot of children who witnessed horrible violence from their fathers toward their mothers.
For some, their lives are seriouslly harmed for the rest of their lives.
Others manage better.
For all, it is life altering.
For those who think domestic violence does not often impact children or women for the rest of their lives... take note. Regardless of what you think, a dead mother and a father in jail has a life long impact on a child's life.
~dancer~
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Who on earth .... is there really anyone out there who would think that domestic violence does not impact children? Honestly?
You really need to stick around here more. You'd be surprised at the stuff that comes out.