The Handcarts Again..

[_Gazelam]

My ward is going on this Trek. Our Bishop is very excited about it, and has many in the ward fired up to go.

We watched a video presentation of when everyone went last year, and there were a few crying while watching it. I fell asleep and began to snore until someone poked me awake and gave me a crusty look.

I guess I can see why some would want to go, but as for myself, I'm very willing to take the word of those who were actually there:

It sucked.

[_Mercury]

You made no reference whatsoever about the Reptilian Overlords and their adamantium shackles.

You are confusing crab people (also known as the Queer eye guys) with reptilian overlords.

the existence of the crab people has been thoroughly documented in the TV series South Park.

You wanna hear about crazy, go down to Pahrump NV and, assuming hes not in jail for arms trafficking, a guy my dad and I "hung out" with can tell you about the reptilian overlords and the battles we used to fight in to kill them all in 10,000 BC. Effing bastards, set the human race back 10,000 years and we barely won...Now they are coming back and we need to fight them with our massive starships waiting under the moqueef caverns near Stateline Nevada. Crazy bastards. I had the best time at their compound. (CRAZIES!!!!)

[_Mercury]

We watched a video presentation of when everyone went last year, and there were a few crying while watching it.

I am sure there were a few people crying IN it as well. I can just hear the audio track:

"Bishop Buck, why do you make us do this every year for Youth conference? The Seven Hills wards went to Disneyland for their youth conference. All we do is pull these stupid, poorly built wagons up to the old boy scout camp the other side of Mt. Charleston. We always start late...in the DARK, and when we get up to the top we freeze our asses off while we get coerced into a testimony on penalty of group exclusion."

[_Gazelam]

The ward is actually travelling out to the actual trail, I think they said they plan to do twenty miles of it.

My wife actually wants to go.

Im gonna miss her : )

[_Maxrep]

At what point during the year does the church recreate the Mountain Meadows Massacre?

[_Inconceivable]

The church would rather worship ancestors rewriting history and capitalizing on their stupidity (or at least their blind obedience and short sightedness) than teach lessons of true temporal preparedness. At least in this lame case.

Evidently, different people learn different...

My son recognized the dangerous situation and acted as he was taught by his REAL parents. The Pa was reckless and stupid.

Things aren't always what they seem, captain obvious.

It's not always right to endure (or be brainless) till you get hurt. The original partys proved that God does not protect and preserve many that demonstrate thoughtless concern for nature, peparedness or common sense. Go to Nauvoo and count the number of dead on the memorial - most died unecessarilly. And no. Nauvoo wasn't burning as depicted. Those abandoned did not die at the hands of the "mob". Those that chose to remain (like the only legal wife of the prophet) were not hunted down like dogs.

In the real world, the extra cargo (ma's food, clothes, mattress etc - all contrary to the trek guidlines) would have been tossed in a ditch in short order. This lady, in reality, had no business burdening anyone to haul her large butt across the rocks. It's self absorbed people like this that contributed to the great hardships of the original pioneers.

Once again, not a lesson learned. And you missed it again too, Wade.

[_harmony]

At what point during the year does the church recreate the Mountain Meadows Massacre?

This is an incredibly insightful statement. Indeed, why do we commemorate one and ignore the other? Are they not both very important to LDS history?

[_Trinity]

At what point during the year does the church recreate the Mountain Meadows Massacre?

This is an incredibly insightful statement. Indeed, why do we commemorate one and ignore the other? Are they not both very important to LDS history?

Indeed. And why don't the adults also recreate polygamy for a summer so they will gain a better appreciation for what they have now?

[_The Nehor]

At what point during the year does the church recreate the Mountain Meadows Massacre?

This is an incredibly insightful statement. Indeed, why do we commemorate one and ignore the other? Are they not both very important to LDS history?

Why doesn't the U.S. celebrate the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki? There's nothing to celebrate and commemorate. Just remember.

[_LCD2YOU]

At what point during the year does the church recreate the Mountain Meadows Massacre?

This is an incredibly insightful statement. Indeed, why do we commemorate one and ignore the other? Are they not both very important to LDS history?

Why doesn't the U.S. celebrate the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki? There's nothing to celebrate and commemorate. Just remember.

We recognize them.

We didn't bury them and try to white wash it.

The Mountain Meadows Massacre was a crime against people who didn't know they were at war. Japan knew it was in a war.

If the LDS org is going to continue to bring up how "down trodden and beat up" they were in Missouri, they should acknowledge their own culpability in bringing misery on people who were innocent of doing anything to them.