Where does Gordon live?

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I heard Gordon B. got a new golf cart: He's in the passenger seat.

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Infymus wrote:This is a picture of the Mormon Prophet's 2400+ sq foot Condo estimated at $2.8 million dollars. The entire top floor belongs to the Prophet. There are "special" elevators that are guarded by Mormon Secret Police (men dressed in all black suits, white shirts and dark ties, ear pieces and microphones in their sleeves, who carry actual police looking "badges"). These elevators go down underground where tunnels allow the Prophet to travel to any part of Tempe Square without having to be driven. The tunnels are large enough that Hinckley can be taken by private golf-cart.


I realize that you state it is 2400+ but as I look at the picture the top floor looks more like 24,000 sq. ft.
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Re: Where does Gordon live?

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Scottie wrote:
Jason Bourne wrote:]
Don't they have to disclose how money is spent, since they are a non-profit charity? Couldn't some prying and the Freedom of Information Act help shed some light on it.



Churches are not required to disclose financial information under the Freedom of information Act. That law applies to government entities. Churches are specifically excluded from having to provide financial information under the Internal revenue Code.


Does anyone know why this law exists? Why are churches immune from this?


http://atheism.about.com/od/churchestax ... ptions.htm

http://www.irs.gov/charities/charitable ... 99,00.html

Here's an interesting page that shows how a Church may be politically silenced because they are tax exempt:

http://hushmoney.org/501c3-facts.htm
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Re: Where does Gordon live?

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Scottie wrote:

Does anyone know why this law exists? Why are churches immune from this?


So the government cannot destroy churches.
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I think there is a real estate site where you can get photos from space of the building and it's worth - I've checked it out before but can't remember the site. I think you need the address first.
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Re: Where does Gordon live?

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Jason Bourne wrote:
I'm looking for the reason you believe his condo is worth $1.5 million, as opposed to $5.1 million, or $36,000, or any other amount. You seem to know the value, so I would just like to know how you know this.



I recall reading it in an article a few years back. Infymus claims it is 2,8 million but gives no reference of for that. He also says Pres Hinckley owns it. That is not correct. The LDS Church owns it. When he dies the next LDS president will more likely then not live there.

So what if it is the whole top floor? So what if there are elevators with tunnels to his offices? It makes sense he has guards. He has a very high profile position. He needs protection.

Having a place like this for their Church president makes total sense.

Now let me ask you a question or two.


Sure, but you haven't answered mine yet. I also would like to hear Infymus's sources, I never said I believed his estimate over someone else's, though it is curious that I read that it was 2.5 million, and he does provide a picture, but I'm sure he'll post or send me a message with his source to back up his claims.

Why do you care?


When did I give the impression that I care?

Why should we answer you?


No one is saying you should answer me, in fact I feel like it's a waste of time for you to even post if you don't have an answer. If I were you (or an active member) I guess I would feel a little embarrased if I did not know the answer.

What is your intent?


To find out if something I read was true. See, you've uncovered my true anti-mormon motives!

Why did you insinuate he lived in a mansion when you apparently had no idea where he lived?


Did I really "insinuate" something? Or did I do the intellectually honest thing, and say that I read something, and ask if anyone knew if it was true and could help me find out if it was true? And you are correct in your assumption, I have no idea where he lived, though I imagined it was in Utah. That's why I asked. Maybe you should read more carefully and not be so defensive.

What do you want to do with the information?


Retain it, evaluate it, discuss it with people, maybe write about it... but I have yet to receive any reliable information, regarding where Gordon lives.

Nice barrage of repetitive questions, let me know if you have any more.

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charity wrote:Feedback time.

Not that this applies to all or any of you or this is what I think about all or any of you, but those who inquire into matters that are none of their business often appear to others to have impure motives.

Just a little feedback so you can determine whether or not you want to make a behavioral change.


I don't begrudge the prophet a place to live close to the Temple and the COB. He also needs security and elevators.

What I do have a problem with is the closed books. This is supposedly a charitable organization that requires members to donate to it. in my opinion it is reasonable to get an accounting of those funds.
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sunstoned wrote:
What I do have a problem with is the closed books. This is supposedly a charitable organization that requires members to donate to it. in my opinion it is reasonable to get an accounting of those funds.


The Church is not a "charitable" organization. It is a CHURCH. The Church does not require its members otodonate. You don't have to pay admission fees into the chapel, and you can't buy your way into the temple.
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charity wrote:
sunstoned wrote:
What I do have a problem with is the closed books. This is supposedly a charitable organization that requires members to donate to it. in my opinion it is reasonable to get an accounting of those funds.


The Church is not a "charitable" organization. It is a CHURCH. The Church does not require its members otodonate. You don't have to pay admission fees into the chapel, and you can't buy your way into the temple.


Sure you can. All you have to do is pay tithing. And as far as paying admission to get into the chapel, you absolutely do, and money is the least of the commodities that are ultimately extracted.

Keep swallowing camels Charity.
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