Imwashingmypirate wrote:Yeah I see. What is doctrin concerning tithes?
D&C 119: 3-4 And this shall be the beginning of the tithing of my people. And after that, those who have thus been tithed shall pay one-tenth of all their interest annually; and this shall be a standing law unto them forever, for my holy priesthood, saith the Lord.
.
Imwashingmypirate wrote:
But that is cool, then I don't need to pay tithes. Even though my bish said I should and that I'd be greatly blessed, then he cried. So then do I not need to pay on my bank overdraft?
I would say you don't calculate tithing on a loan. It is a debt not an increase. If you don't have any incrase, but are just spiraling down into debt, you don't have any tithing to pay. I hope you get a source of income soon. Borrowing money is not the most financial prudent thing to do in the long haul.
Infymus wrote:
Get a grip Charity, it's all about money. The Mormon Cult was broke in the later part of the 1800's and instituted the full 10% tithing on gross rather than interest. Everything the Cult owns now (including billion dollar shopping malls) was bought with member tithe. The whole Cult is about money. I can't even begin to tell you the number of people who suddenly became "worthy" for the Cult temple by paying "Back Tithing". It all starts with money. Are you depressed? Have you paid your tithing? Are you struggling with the Lord? Have you paid your tithing? Tithing always comes first in Mormonism. Any member who is struggling in any way (job loss, broken down car, depression, etc) will always be counseled to pay tithing in order to receive blessings. All blessings, privileges and callings in the LDS Cult are centered around tithing.
Without paying a full tithe, a member cannot be a “member in good standing”.
That last sentence is the first correct thing you said in this post so far. But you left out a lot. You can't be a member in good standing unless you are attending your meetings, living the law of chastity, supporting the leaders, obeying the Word of Wisdom, and dealing honestly with your fellow man. Why did you leave all that out?
Infymus wrote:Mormons who loose their temple recommends are in serious jeopardy of loosing their Celestial blessings. A Mormon who does not pay tithing cannot enter the temple. If a member cannot get into the temple, the member cannot learn the secret handshake, secret password, secret "new name" and special “sealings”. Without these, the member will be unable to pass Joseph Smith and the angels who guard the entrance to the Celestial Kingdom.
Neither can he enter the temple if he is unchaste, dishonest, not attending his meetings, breaking the word of wisdom, beating his wife and cheating on his business partner. You need to look at the whole picture.
Infymus wrote:Mormons are commanded that tithing must come first before anything else. Utah has the highest rate of bankruptcies in the United States. Mormons often are told "I cannot pay my bills until I've paid my tithing." Mormons will even pay their tithing rather than give the money to a relative who is on the verge of eviction. Mormon published magazines (Ensign, New Era) constantly stress that tithing must always be paid.
Mormons are not perfect. But they have been taught to stay out of debt. They are taught to help their family members. Could the reason you are so bitter against Mormons be that you had your hand out to someone and they wouldn't fill it with money and you assumed they would have if they hadn't been paying their tithing?
Infymus wrote:Recently, Mormon Senator Orrin Hatch passed legislation that allowed members to pay a full tithe even while they were in bankruptcy court. (See S. 4044).
Religious freedom. It is in the Constitution.
Infymus wrote:Mormons are told: "if a destitute family is faced with the decision of paying their tithing or eating, they should pay their tithing." (Lynn Robbins, General Conference, April 2005).
So?
Infymus wrote:Mormons who have not paid tithing will be denied a temple recommend and will be considered "unworthy". However; Mormons who pay "back-tithing" (some as much as $5000 or more) are instantly found to be worthy and can receive their temple recommends back once the money has been paid. The Mormon Cult uses this as an extortion method when it comes to temple marriages. Parents or family members who have not paid tithing are required to pay back tithing - sometimes in the thousands of dollars - which must be paid before a temple recommend can be issued in order to see their own children married.
This is an out and out false statement. Back tithing is not required. And another word, temple recommends only belong in the hands of faithful members, not in the pockets of the dishonest who have no other intention except to attend a wedding ceremony.
Infymus wrote:Mormons who claim that tithing is purely "a personal choice" are deceiving themselves and outright lying.
So, who comes with an armed escort and stands over you while you write out a check? That statement was just plain ridiculous. There is no list posted on the bulletin board at Church of who pays and who doesn't. They don't read our name out over the pulpit. You don't get to sit in a special place in the chapel if you pay your tithing.
Imwashingmypirate wrote:
Are people really asked to pay back tithing??? Jeez.
No, they aren't. For your information, Infymus is so bitter against the Church that he is often. . . . . . inaccurate.
_________________
"To seperate the everything is to seperate