Blixa wrote:I recently ran across an interesting incident of priesthood cursing in the Abraham H. Cannon diary where a combined group of Mormon leaders made an effort to have Robert N. Baskin made blind. (Baskin's career as a relentless foe of Utah theocracy began when his friend Dr. John King Robinson was murdered. He prosecuted John D. Lee and played a role in many of the trials associated with the violence of the Mormon reformation as well as being actively involved in anti-polygamy legislation. He later served as state supreme court chief justice and as mayor of SLC built the first modern water and sewage system, among other highlights of a long and interesting gentile life.)
23 December 1889, "this is the anniversary of the Prophet Joseph Smith's birthday and has been set apart as a day of fasting and prayer for all the Saints throughout the church...At 10 a.m. met at the Gardo House with Presidents Woodruff, Cannon and smith; Apostles John H. Smith, H.J. Grant and John W. Taylor; Counselors J.W. Young and D.H. Wells. All but the two latter dressed in their temple robes. We then kneeled down, and, commencing with Bro. Wells, each of us prayed until Pres. Woodruff had his turn. Bro. Jos. F. was strongest in his prayer and urged that Baskin should be made blind, deaf and dumb unless he would repent of his wickedness. In this prayer we all kneeled with our faces in."
When I was in the Cult I read a lot of Crowther. This guy couldn't get enough. I think one of his books was something about a 1000 prophecies made by Joseph Smith that came true. His books were loaded with tales of Mormon Missionaries cursing those who would not hear their message - and the outcomes. Blighted farms, burned down farms, rotted crops, cholera, flesh eating bacteria (flesh dropping from bones like milk) and more.
Infymus wrote:Shake the dust off your feet and curse me. Use your penishood powers to lay a curse at my feet. Comon, use your God given powers that have gone from Joseph Smith all the way down to use – to curse me. I give you the Korihor challenge. Strike me down, cast me out, and make me suffer! Make me mute or deaf, make it so I fall down and get trod upon. Suffer me to an ignominious death!
Take off your shoes and wash your feet! Lay a curse at my doorstep!
When are you going to use your real powers? Your holy mantels of circumcised penishoods!
Oh, and sorry Charity and Liz, you haven’t got a penis which means you have no power - so get back to the kitchen where you belong and make me a sammich.
I’m waiting and I’m not interested in your excuses. :)
My friend’s father-in-law practices La Regla de Lukumi. I’ll give my friend a call tonight and find out how much it will cost to have you cursed (I’d hate for you to have to go without a curse simply because the Mormons on the board do not seem to share your general sense of xenophobic angst).
"Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." ~Charles Bukowski
The Nehor wrote:Infymus. Pray with a sincere heart and with real intent. Tell God exactly what you think of him. Unload all the ranting and anger you have. Insult him, his wife, his Church, and anything else that comes to mind. Keep going until you've shared all this rage you've been carrying. Curse, rant, swear, do whatever.
Then see if he's angry enough to curse you. Why do you need us?
I'm not asking your God to curse me, I'm asking YOU to curse me with your so-called priesethood.
Bring back the glory days of the Cult, where anyone who kicked out a set of missionaries was cursed. Bring back the days when Mormons could curse a man to where his flesh would fall of his bones.
Stop avoiding the curse and start cursing. Comon, I want to see your priesthood in action!
Unload your hatred for Ex-Mormons and use your MilkcheezeyDick powers to curse me.
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Unless God wants me to curse you I can't. For someone who was in the Church and was a 'Good Mormon' (your words) you don't seem to understand how it works. Believe it or not, childish ranting and insults on a message board do not strike me as something for which to seek divine vengeance. Call me tolerant.
If you want to be cursed, remember what the Missionaries taught. Go to the source.
"Surely he knows that DCP, The Nehor, Lamanite, and other key apologists..." -Scratch clarifying my status in apologetics "I admit it; I'm a petty, petty man." -Some Schmo
Doctor Steuss wrote:My friend’s father-in-law practices La Regla de Lukumi. I’ll give my friend a call tonight and find out how much it will cost to have you cursed (I’d hate for you to have to go without a curse simply because the Mormons on the board do not seem to share your general sense of xenophobic angst).
If your friend doesn't have the millkcheezydick priesthood, then it doesn't count. Also, your friend has to be a card carrying Mormon Cult member who has paid a 100% tithe over the last year.
The Nehor wrote:Unless God wants me to curse you I can't. For someone who was in the Church and was a 'Good Mormon' (your words) you don't seem to understand how it works. Believe it or not, childish ranting and insults on a message board do not strike me as something for which to seek divine vengeance. Call me tolerant.
If you want to be cursed, remember what the Missionaries taught. Go to the source.
Ah of course, "childish ranting and insults" are something you have never done, mr. "one line zingers, hit and run" Nehor.
You're avoiding the whole deal.
Just admit you have no power to Curse. You're laying the blame on your God saying its His responsibility.
Ok, Nehor is out, obviously unable to perform his penishood duties.
Since he went on to have a (seemingly) successful political career, I’d say their prayer was answered.
Did you mean unanswered? Or are you making a joke about the necessary corruption of politicians (a hideous reality in Utah most often among the non-Gentile) The successess of his career were fortunate for citizens of SLC living amid cesspools and relying on privies, and I'm talking literally not metaphorically. Metaphorically he was less sucessful since he never managed to get BY in jail (which would have taken actual intervention by a loving god).
Baskin did once refer to the Endowment House as an iniquitous grease-vat and considering how (admittedly) rarely BY liked to bathe, I've often reflected that the description likely had some truth in it.
From the Ernest L. Wilkinson Diaries: "ELW dreams he's spattered w/ grease. Hundreds steal his greasy pants."
The Nehor wrote:Unless God wants me to curse you I can't. For someone who was in the Church and was a 'Good Mormon' (your words) you don't seem to understand how it works. Believe it or not, childish ranting and insults on a message board do not strike me as something for which to seek divine vengeance. Call me tolerant.
If you want to be cursed, remember what the Missionaries taught. Go to the source.
Ah of course, "childish ranting and insults" are something you have never done, mr. "one line zingers, hit and run" Nehor.
You're avoiding the whole deal.
Just admit you have no power to Curse. You're laying the blame on your God saying its His responsibility.
Ok, Nehor is out, obviously unable to perform his penishood duties.
Gaz? You there?
Childish one-liners are very different from childish rants.
I do have the power to curse. I choose not to use it. Mostly because I find this a great trip down memory lane. The last time I spoke to someone like this it was an obese drooling man in Manchester town center who swore and spat every time he saw missionaries and routinely demanded we curse him or strike him down if we had power. He also offered to duel the Holy Spirit in one on one combat. Could you please do that too? It would be very funny.
"Surely he knows that DCP, The Nehor, Lamanite, and other key apologists..." -Scratch clarifying my status in apologetics "I admit it; I'm a petty, petty man." -Some Schmo
The Nehor wrote:Childish one-liners are very different from childish rants.
Oh? They are?
I do have the power to curse. I choose not to use it. Mostly because I find this a great trip down memory lane. The last time I spoke to someone like this it was an obese drooling man in Manchester town center who swore and spat every time he saw missionaries and routinely demanded we curse him or strike him down if we had power. He also offered to duel the Holy Spirit in one on one combat. Could you please do that too? It would be very funny.