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[_Zakuska]

Ah I see... its a big FARMS conspiracy. :rolleyes: can you explain these comments by those non-lds archeologists in 1988?

The report on this work concludes with the observation that "something went on here that is still difficult to explain." Some archaeologists have suggested that the horse bones were stirred upward from lower to higher levels by the action of tunneling rodents, but they admit that this explanation is not easy to accept. The statement has also been made that paleontologists will not be pleased at the idea that horses survived to such a late date as to be involved with civilized or near-civilized people whose remains are seen in the ceramic-using levels.5 Surprisingly, the Mexican researchers show no awareness of the horse teeth discovered in 1957 by Carnegie Institution scientists Pollock and Ray. (Some uncomfortable scientific facts seem to need rediscovering time and time again.)

[_skippy the dead]

Ah I see... its a big FARMS conspiracy. :rolleyes: can you explain these comments by those non-lds archeologists in 1988?

The report on this work concludes with the observation that "something went on here that is still difficult to explain." Some archaeologists have suggested that the horse bones were stirred upward from lower to higher levels by the action of tunneling rodents, but they admit that this explanation is not easy to accept. The statement has also been made that paleontologists will not be pleased at the idea that horses survived to such a late date as to be involved with civilized or near-civilized people whose remains are seen in the ceramic-using levels.5 Surprisingly, the Mexican researchers show no awareness of the horse teeth discovered in 1957 by Carnegie Institution scientists Pollock and Ray. (Some uncomfortable scientific facts seem to need rediscovering time and time again.)

Source?

[_Zakuska]

3 posts up.

[_Zakuska]

4. Robert T. Hatt, "Faunal and Archaeological Researches in Yucatan Caves," Cranbrook Institute of Science, Bulletin 33, 1953. See Peter J. Schmidt, "La entrada del hombre a la peninsula de Yucatan," in Origines del Hombre Americano, comp. Alba Gonzalez Jacome (Mexico: Secretaria de Educacion Publica, 1988), 250.
5. Schmidt, "La entrada," 254.

Lets see, 112 years ago, a guy found something he thought was horse bones. Then, in 1955 somebody ELSE dated PART of some stuff in a similar area to 1800 years ago.

Not quite:

122 years ago they found 3 horse teeth in 1988 further work was done on the dig, 16 layers where taken off. Mammoths and Mega-Fuanna, including horses are in the lower levels. Then theres levels with no artifacts. Then more horse bones are found throughout layers 1-5, mixed with pottery and other artifacts that date from 1800bc to 400bc. Showing horses existing with Man, the archeologists are having a hard time explaining it.

[_skippy the dead]

4. Robert T. Hatt, "Faunal and Archaeological Researches in Yucatan Caves," Cranbrook Institute of Science, Bulletin 33, 1953. See Peter J. Schmidt, "La entrada del hombre a la peninsula de Yucatan," in Origines del Hombre Americano, comp. Alba Gonzalez Jacome (Mexico: Secretaria de Educacion Publica, 1988), 250.
5. Schmidt, "La entrada," 254.

I've seen this as the main source quoted by apologists. I have a couple questions about it though (maybe Beastie can chime in with anything she knows). First, who is Peter Schmidt - what is his background and qualifications? Also, it would appear that Schmidt is most often cited as a secondary source (i.e., quoted by someone else, or via a generic "See"). Has anybody here, or the apologists who cite this work, actually read it or a translation? Can the relevant portions be presented, translated into English?

[Guest]

Perhaps contacting those God forsaken FARMS/FAIR hacks?

Or maybe... the Mexican govenrment? I will see what I can do.

[_skippy the dead]

Perhaps contacting those God forsaken FARMS/FAIR hacks?

Or maybe... the Mexican govenrment?

You mean to say that you are quoting and citing sources you have never reviewed??

[Guest]

No Im quoting farms and Fair. What are you implying?

[_skippy the dead]

No I'm quoting farms and Fair. What are you implying?

I'm implying that you have presented those sources in support of your position, yet you have not actually read them. Simple as that.

[_Zakuska]

I see... you want me to check my sources:


Robert T. Hatt
http://www.google.com/search?q=Robert+T ... tartPage=1

Perhaps Ill buy it: $32.00
http://www.gwenfoss.com/bookquestion.asp?book=6000

That seems to be the primary source.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls= ... 988%29%2C+