LDS Cult Tithing Horror Stories

[_Infymus]

And you get the whiner's version.

Typical of you Mormons, kick those who are down. Blame the member, not the Cult.

Thank God you're not in charge. Your black and white thinking would probably drive hundreds into therapy and bankruptcy.

[_charity]

When I was married to my exhusband, we constantly had financial problems. I was a schoolteacher in an area that doesn't pay much. I had three children in four years. My ex was mainly self-employed and contributed only sporadically to the family income.

I will never forget the one time in our marriage my ex had better sense than I did. I often got behind on tithing, due to the fact that there were weeks when I literally didn't know where I'd get grocery money. But he finally got paid for one job and gave me almost 1,000. Bonanza! I had never gotten that much money from him before. I paid my back tithing. He told me that was a bad idea, but I was going to be obedient to the Lord.

The Lord paid me back by inspiring me to file bankruptcy several years later due to overwhelming credit card debt.

My parents, well into their retirement, in their seventies, still have many years of a house mortgage ahead of them. They kept borrowing on the house. But they always paid their tithing.

Tithing isn't about money or lifestyle. It is about obedience and faith. For over 25 years my husband was a school teacher and I was a stay at home mom. We lived on his income. We paid our tithing. We had 6 children. We never were on welfare or any kind. We drove old cars, and lived in a small house. We didn't take big fancy vacations. Guess what? Our kids grew up just fine. Two went on missions. All of them got as much college education as they wanted. Three of them have graduate degrees. We have about 8 years to run on our mortgage before the house is paid off, because we kept refinancing to pay for stuff for the kids. But our equity is way over the mortage. We saved for retirement and aren't a burden to our kids.

Your parents have and will receive blessings you can't even imagine.

[_charity]

And you get the whiner's version.

Typical of you Mormons, kick those who are down. Blame the member, not the Cult.

Thank God you're not in charge. Your black and white thinking would probably drive hundreds into therapy and bankruptcy.

So, because a person is whining they are "down?" Sounds to me like they like where they are. They just don't like where they were.

[_Yoda]

My dad decided to skip out on tithing and fund my mish. The Bishop chastised him for this and told him tithing always came first. He should pay his tithing no matter what, and the ward would pay for my mission. My Dad had too much dignity to do that. Also, my Dad reasoned that it was sixes. He tithes $365, and the church turned around and gave him $365 back to pay for my mission. How is that any different than skipping tithing and just paying for my mission?

The Bishop seemed to be on some kind of power trip without a lot of compassion for the Dad. The Dad was still paying the Ward $365, which was his 10% of earnings. Why couldn't the bishop just allocate it as tithing, and have the Ward pay for the mission if it was a wash, anyway? It doesn't make any sense. It's a matter of checking a different box on the slip.

[_charity]

My dad decided to skip out on tithing and fund my mish. The Bishop chastised him for this and told him tithing always came first. He should pay his tithing no matter what, and the ward would pay for my mission. My Dad had too much dignity to do that. Also, my Dad reasoned that it was sixes. He tithes $365, and the church turned around and gave him $365 back to pay for my mission. How is that any different than skipping tithing and just paying for my mission?

The Bishop seemed to be on some kind of power trip without a lot of compassion for the Dad. The Dad was still paying the Ward $365, which was his 10% of earnings. Why couldn't the bishop just allocate it as tithing, and have the Ward pay for the mission if it was a wash, anyway? It doesn't make any sense. It's a matter of checking a different box on the slip.

Because the bishop doesn't have discretion over the tithing funds. They are sent directly to Salt Lake City.

Bishops can't have "compassion" and advise people to disobey the laws of God. Can you imagine a bishop telling a single woman that he had compassion on her because she hasn't been asked to marry any one, so for her it would be okay to meet men in bars and have one night stands?

[_Scottie]

My dad decided to skip out on tithing and fund my mish. The Bishop chastised him for this and told him tithing always came first. He should pay his tithing no matter what, and the ward would pay for my mission. My Dad had too much dignity to do that. Also, my Dad reasoned that it was sixes. He tithes $365, and the church turned around and gave him $365 back to pay for my mission. How is that any different than skipping tithing and just paying for my mission?

The Bishop seemed to be on some kind of power trip without a lot of compassion for the Dad. The Dad was still paying the Ward $365, which was his 10% of earnings. Why couldn't the bishop just allocate it as tithing, and have the Ward pay for the mission if it was a wash, anyway? It doesn't make any sense. It's a matter of checking a different box on the slip.

Because the bishop doesn't have discretion over the tithing funds. They are sent directly to Salt Lake City.

Bishops can't have "compassion" and advise people to disobey the laws of God. Can you imagine a bishop telling a single woman that he had compassion on her because she hasn't been asked to marry any one, so for her it would be okay to meet men in bars and have one night stands?

Aren't bishops called to be a judge? They most certainly DO have the power to give a TR to a member that has a special tithing circumstance. This bishop was an ass, pure and simple.

[_truth dancer]

You can distort pretty much anything can't you. :(

What was distorted? Please list.

I say, I think the LDS version of heaven is hell and you twist that to mean I do not want to be a wife and mother. It is weird how you continually do this sort of thing. I'm getting used to it actually.

Aren't you glad you don't have live any kind of life you don't want to in the afterlife. You don't want to be a wife and mother, you don't have to be. I do. What a neat plan. We both get what we want.

Bold mine.

Newsflash... I already am a wife and mother.

But that ends when you die. Unless there are sealings in force. That's in the New Testament.

LOL... yeah, the version of heaven you like must be the real one. Yep... Charity knows how the universe works. Lets all trust her to tell us the real truth about heaven. Any God who separates families and loved ones if they don't have the sealing ritual is not a God worth worshipping, IMHO.

No offense Charity, but of all the folks who claim to know about heaven, you are not the one I would trust to know the real truth.

And, yes, I am very hopeful that if there is an afterlife I will not be part of a harem, procreating children for eternity, sending 1/3 off never to be seen again.

I won't be part of a harem. Maybe my husband will have other wives. Right now, I'm the only one. But plural marraige is not a harem, although I know you have said this over and over. I love having children. I love raising children. No problem there. So, were you to know that one of your children was going to tell you he never wanted to see you again, and took off, would have regretted having him?

You will be sharing your husband with a bunch of other women.. call it what you will. Makes no difference to me. ;) Glad you are good with it.

I love raising children too... I just don't want to do it for eternity. So... good for you that you want to be a queen, priestess, and procreate for eternity. Go for it.

Watching the rest suffer through a test for which they are ill prepared. No question about this.

Suffer? You don't understand. I am sure you have watched your children suffer, through vaccinations, dental work, etc. Did you decide they really shouldn't have the vaccination because of the few seconds of pain? That is what mortality is, even though it doesn't seem like it to us.

Ohhh... I understand quite well. What you don't understand is that your limited mind (and the minds of all humans), is not capable of understanding all the mysteries of the universe. Your little blink of a human brain is not able to comprehend what is God, or full awareness of existence, no matter how much you claim to be the ultimate provider of truth and knowledge, no matter how much you think you know everything. 8)

Are you saying that everyone gets what they want in the afterlife? Hmmm sounds good to me. Personally, I have never heard that as part of official LDS doctrine... is this a new revelation or something?

They get what they wanted because that is the kind of life they led and the choices they made.

Ohhh.. so you are changing the doctrine? Darn, I thought the, "everyone gets what they want" was nice. 8) Again, I hardly think your version of eternity comes even remotely close to what is to come so feel free to believe your fantasy. If it works well for you, great. If it helps you to be a better human, then by all means keep believing your version of the afterlife.

Whatever limitations there may be came because of their own choices. A person who wants to be a ballerina must take dancing lessons. If you chose not to, you can't complain because you aren't a prima ballerina.

I feel quite confident that the LDS version of the afterlife doesn't come even remotely close to any sort of reality so I'm not worried about limitations that include not being part of a harem, being a queen, having my spirit children cast out into outer darkness.

Glad your version works for you.

~dancer~

[_The Nehor]

My dad decided to skip out on tithing and fund my mish. The Bishop chastised him for this and told him tithing always came first. He should pay his tithing no matter what, and the ward would pay for my mission. My Dad had too much dignity to do that. Also, my Dad reasoned that it was sixes. He tithes $365, and the church turned around and gave him $365 back to pay for my mission. How is that any different than skipping tithing and just paying for my mission?

The Bishop seemed to be on some kind of power trip without a lot of compassion for the Dad. The Dad was still paying the Ward $365, which was his 10% of earnings. Why couldn't the bishop just allocate it as tithing, and have the Ward pay for the mission if it was a wash, anyway? It doesn't make any sense. It's a matter of checking a different box on the slip.

The question is one of who is prideful. If the Bishop switched which fund it went to he would be in the wrong. If the father was unwilling to accept the idea the Bishop offered should the Bishop force him?

[_truth dancer]

Charity...

Bishops can't have "compassion" and advise people to disobey the laws of God. Can you imagine a bishop telling a single woman that he had compassion on her because she hasn't been asked to marry any one, so for her it would be okay to meet men in bars and have one night stands?

With all due respect... have you ever even read the New Testament? You know, the spirit of the law rather than the letter of the law idea? The part about compassion, care, love.... ummm charity?

You seem to be so stuck in the whole Law of Moses thing... seriously, why not study the teachings of Jesus for a while?

It couldn't hurt.


~dancer~

[_Blixa]

Aren't you glad you don't have live any kind of life you don't want to in the afterlife. You don't want to be a wife and mother, you don't have to be. I do. What a neat plan. We both get what we want.

Bold mine.

Newsflash... I already am a wife and mother.

But that ends when you die. Unless there are sealings in force. That's in the New Testament.

LOL... yeah, the version of heaven you like must be the real one. Yep... Charity knows how the universe works. Lets all trust her to tell us the real truth about heaven. Any God who separates families and loved ones if they don't have the sealing ritual is not a God worth worshipping, IMHO.

I have to say TD that I never fail to be floored by exchanges like these---even though I completely expect them! I can't imagine a deity I would want less to do with than the one asserted here.