Scottie wrote:Charity, did you happen to see the abhorrent posts that Wil Schryver made to Runtu over there? Completely unprovoked and incredibly out of line. What was his punishment? The mods left a note that said "Watch the personal attacks". Any one of us would have been banned in a heartbeat!!
This happens more than not, I'm afraid.
That was a new low. The absolute nadir of humanity is so quickly reached on that board it's head spinning.
From the Ernest L. Wilkinson Diaries: "ELW dreams he's spattered w/ grease. Hundreds steal his greasy pants."
The Nehor wrote:I've always found more to love in people who have a passion for something
Why does skepticism mean 'Doesn't have passion for things...'?
but there should really be higher values and loves in people than that.
Why is skepticism incompatible with 'higher values'?
If your just talking about trends you've noticed in people, then fair enough. But it's almost like your trying to point at inherent, fundemental conflicts. I can't see them myself...
I didn't say they were incompatible. I only meant that skepticism alone is not great. As part of a whole it works. As a whole, it stinks.
"Surely he knows that DCP, The Nehor, Lamanite, and other key apologists..." -Scratch clarifying my status in apologetics "I admit it; I'm a petty, petty man." -Some Schmo
The Nehor wrote:Skepticism is usually not beautiful.
I really disagree with this. Quite a bit... Not that that matters much mind :)
I've always found more to love in people who have a passion for something. They're the people who are truly alive. Some are also skeptics but I've never found anything inherently beautiful about being skeptical. Like I said, sometimes it's smart but there should really be higher values and loves in people than that.
Passion and skepticism can both be part of a critical faculty, Nehor. The "they're the people who are truly alive" stuff is pretty condescending.
Does anyone read what I say? C'mon people. I said that skepticism alone makes a dull person. Skepticism can and is a part of many perfect beautiful people. Why am I always accused of black and white thinking when everyone is always trying to read it into me?
"Surely he knows that DCP, The Nehor, Lamanite, and other key apologists..." -Scratch clarifying my status in apologetics "I admit it; I'm a petty, petty man." -Some Schmo
The Nehor wrote:I've always found more to love in people who have a passion for something
Why does skepticism mean 'Doesn't have passion for things...'?
but there should really be higher values and loves in people than that.
Why is skepticism incompatible with 'higher values'?
If your just talking about trends you've noticed in people, then fair enough. But it's almost like your trying to point at inherent, fundemental conflicts. I can't see them myself...
I didn't say they were incompatible. I only meant that skepticism alone is not great. As part of a whole it works. As a whole, it stinks.
What is your definition of skepticism, Nehor? I'm a pretty passionate person (at times too passionate;) and it doesn't really get in the way of being a skeptic. I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to say here.
The Nehor wrote:Skepticism is usually not beautiful.
I really disagree with this. Quite a bit... Not that that matters much mind :)
I've always found more to love in people who have a passion for something. They're the people who are truly alive. Some are also skeptics but I've never found anything inherently beautiful about being skeptical. Like I said, sometimes it's smart but there should really be higher values and loves in people than that.
I wonder, was Joseph skeptical about the claims preachers in his area were making? If he wasn't skeptical, would it be just as beautiful?
Like I said, skepticism can be useful. However, Joseph didn't achieve much because he chose to not believe some preachers. He achieved later because he gave his heart to something.
"Surely he knows that DCP, The Nehor, Lamanite, and other key apologists..." -Scratch clarifying my status in apologetics "I admit it; I'm a petty, petty man." -Some Schmo
The Nehor wrote:Skepticism is usually not beautiful. Sometimes it is the smart option though.
You didn't specify considering it 'on it's own'...
If a theist would have made a similar statement regarding faith, I think it would have been considered bad form if readers would have assumed it to be 'loveless', 'soulless' faith...
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The Nehor wrote:I've always found more to love in people who have a passion for something
Why does skepticism mean 'Doesn't have passion for things...'?
but there should really be higher values and loves in people than that.
Why is skepticism incompatible with 'higher values'?
If your just talking about trends you've noticed in people, then fair enough. But it's almost like your trying to point at inherent, fundemental conflicts. I can't see them myself...
I didn't say they were incompatible. I only meant that skepticism alone is not great. As part of a whole it works. As a whole, it stinks.
What is your definition of skepticism, Nehor? I'm a pretty passionate person (at times too passionate;) and it doesn't really get in the way of being a skeptic. I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to say here.
I think our definition is the same Moniker and you do have passion. It doesn't get in the way. What I'm referring to can be asked like this: Have you ever met someone that is so skeptical of everything that they will accept nothing? Those are the kind of people skepticism poisons.
"Surely he knows that DCP, The Nehor, Lamanite, and other key apologists..." -Scratch clarifying my status in apologetics "I admit it; I'm a petty, petty man." -Some Schmo
Will you be getting around to answering the question any time soon?
Thanks, -Wade Englund-
To gain insight into what?
To gain insight into whether you think stereotyping is an appropriate use of anger (as my remarkably simple and straightforward question suggests).
In other words, what made you curious about the juxtaposition of the words "anger" and "stereotyping"?
But...it wasn't the juxtaposing of the words "anger and "stereotyping" that made me curious.
I am trying to understand your initial question.
It is a remarkably simple and straightforward question. What's not to understand about it? (It may make it easier for you to understand the question were you to just read the question as is, and not to mistakenly load it up by reading in false presuppositions and motives).
Again, will you be answering the question anytime soon?
Thanks, -Wade Englund-
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The Nehor wrote:Have you ever met someone that is so skeptical of everything that they will accept nothing? Those are the kind of people skepticism poisons.
Being uncertain or undecided about reality can be a beautiful thing.
Not needing all the answers can be a beautiful thing.