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Coggins7 wrote:In other words, Hillary has been a junior senator of a few years (in which she has been, legislatively speaking, almost inert) and was married to the President for eight years, eight years in which she ran damage control for her husband's endless scandals and, both politically and managerially, utterly botched her cockamamie universal health care scheme.

She has no foreign policy experience, has no understanding of the military, is an economic illiterate, and the successful law firm (Rose) she was a member of was involved in a particularly shady real estate scam that has, as of yet, never been fully brought to light and in relation to which she was yet involved in one of the earliest Clinton scandals revolving around the Rose Law Firm billing records, which mysteriously disappeared from Web Hubble's office after Vince Foster's suicide, and then under equally mysterious circumstances, appeared in the White House living quarters--with Hillary's and Hubble's fingerprints all over them.

The thing was, of course, is that Hillary claimed no knowledge of their disposition.

Hillary's candidacy doesn't have a prayer, in any case. She is far to divisive a figure, and its unlikely that the American public is in for a staggered dynasty of Machiavellian opportunists like the Clintons. Frankly, I think most people would be less concerned about Hillary as President that worrying about what Bill is up to behind the scenes.


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Coggins7 wrote:I
Hillary's candidacy doesn't have a prayer, in any case. She is far to divisive a figure, and its unlikely that the American public is in for a staggered dynasty of Machiavellian opportunists like the Clintons. Frankly, I think most people would be less concerned about Hillary as President that worrying about what Bill is up to behind the scenes.


She can't be anymore divisive and opportunistic than our current dumbass George W the great divider. After watching the republicans screw up our economy for the past 8 years I've come to the conclusion that most republican leaders don't know s*** about economics other than shift as much money breaks to the rich and let it SLOWLY trickle down while they move their operations overseas.

The only Republican I would vote for would be McCain and this is only if he pulls his head out of his arse and ends this do nothing help nobody military action. Personally I am tired of all the political BS from both sides. If Romney buys his way into the republican nomination he will have wasted his money. The winds of change are a coming it will now be up to the democrats to screw up this country although they will come nowhere close to the spending disaster that the "fiscally responsible" republicans have given us these past 8 years.
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Coggins7 wrote:In other words, Hillary has been a junior senator of a few years...

Not sure why you threw "junior" in there. John Kerry is the junior Senator from Massachusetts. Junior Senator just means the Senator with the least time from a given state. So what?

I personally think Hillary has plenty of experience, as far as that goes. That doesn't mean I'll vote for her, but if I don't, it won't be because she lacks experience.
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asbestosman wrote:
Who Knows wrote:...
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Sheesh, are American voters really this stupid? ...

After electing GWB second time? Didn't exist a better one?


by the way, we have elected our politicians in Hungary, and they are similarly stupid, but in a different way. (Smaller country, idiots at the smaller level.)
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Post by _Coggins7 »

I personally think Hillary has plenty of experience, as far as that goes. That doesn't mean I'll vote for her, but if I don't, it won't be because she lacks experience.



"Experience" Seth, in precisely what that would in any way qualify her for the Presidency?
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Ulysses Grant had no prior political experience.
Dwight Eisenhower had no prior political experience.
James Garfield had no prior political experience.
Franklin Pierce had no prior political experience.
Zachary Taylor had no prior political experience.
George Washington had no prior political experience.
Benjamin Harrison had no prior political experience.


Abraham Lincoln served for 2 years in the House of Representatives.
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Moniker wrote:Ulysses Grant had no prior political experience.
Dwight Eisenhower had no prior political experience.
James Garfield had no prior political experience.
Franklin Pierce had no prior political experience.
Zachary Taylor had no prior political experience.
George Washington had no prior political experience.
Benjamin Harrison had no prior political experience.


Abraham Lincoln served for 2 years in the House of Representatives.


I think high-level military service should count as prior political experience so that takes off Grant, Eisenhower, and Washington. For the rest, you're spot on.
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Post by _richardMdBorn »

Moniker wrote:George Washington had no prior political experience.
This is incorrect. I think wikipedia is correct about this:

As a respected military hero and large landowner, he held local office and was elected to the Virginia provincial legislature, the House of Burgesses, beginning in 1758...

In July 1774, he chaired the meeting at which the Fairfax Resolves were adopted, which called for, among other things, the convening of a Continental Congress. In August, he attended the First Virginia Convention, where he was selected as a delegate to the First Continental Congress.

After fighting broke out in April 1775, Washington appeared at the Second Continental Congress in military uniform, signaling that he was prepared for war.
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richardMdBorn wrote:
Moniker wrote:George Washington had no prior political experience.
This is incorrect. I think wikipedia is correct about this:

As a respected military hero and large landowner, he held local office and was elected to the Virginia provincial legislature, the House of Burgesses, beginning in 1758...

In July 1774, he chaired the meeting at which the Fairfax Resolves were adopted, which called for, among other things, the convening of a Continental Congress. In August, he attended the First Virginia Convention, where he was selected as a delegate to the First Continental Congress.

After fighting broke out in April 1775, Washington appeared at the Second Continental Congress in military uniform, signaling that he was prepared for war.


Ah! My bad! Thanks for the correction.
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Post by _Moniker »

Ack! I just did a wiki on a few others I listed... there was prior political experience by Pierce as well! Shoot! That's what happens when "stupid" posters make posts! :P

Okay I looked at wiki and found this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Un ... experience

Might be helpful!
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