charity wrote: If I were to have motto's plastered all over my walls they would be things like ... *No pain, no gain. ...
Great Mottos! How about also: * The best strokes are with a whip ...
The Proverbs 13:24:
He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.
- Whenever a poet or preacher, chief or wizard spouts gibberish, the human race spends centuries deciphering the message. - Umberto Eco - To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin. - Cardinal Bellarmine at the trial of Galilei
A good grounding can accomplish more than a spanking, in my opinion. Especially when the kid administers it to him/herself.
Long before President Hinckley made his one earring counsel, we had strictly limited our daughters' earring adventures. One per ear was tolerated None was preferred. Three of the 4 have never pierced their ears. One wanted earrings. So she got them. But she knew the limit. She was 12 at the time.
I had taken her down to church for YW one evening, dropped her off. Then a little later, remembered some task I had to do at church and went back down. She and I happened to nearly collide around a corner, and there she was with two earring per ear. She was putting them in after she left home. I didn't say anything, but she knew she was in trouble.
She came home after having an hour or so to stew about it. We sat her down and asked her what she thought we ought to do about it. (The issue was not just more than one earring, but being devious about it.) She suggested that she be grounded, which for a 12 year old was not going to her friends' houses. I nodded. And asked her how long. She suggested a month. I had been thinking that would be reasonable before she suggetsed it. Before I could conclude the conversation, she volunteered that she shouldn't be able to talk to her friends on the phone after school. How long I asked? 2 weeks. I nodded. By then I knew to keep my mouth shut. She volunteered that she thought she should do one extra chore on Saturdays. Also for a month. I carefully considered. When she didn't immediately volunteer anything else, I asked her if she thought that was enough and she said she did. So we agreed.
She didn't get any additional piercings until she was 16. Since 16 year olds have more freedom, she chose to add more. Many more. We were watching conference on TV when President Hinckley made his one earring counsel. She took all of them out but one per ear right then and there.
You're like the guy that pours sugar in someones gas tank and then can't understand why the guy that has to pay $4000 to replace his engine gets pissed. After all, it was just a joke...
If there's one thing I've learned from this board, it's that consensual sex with multiple partners is okay unless God commands it. - Abman
I find this place to be hostile toward all brands of stupidity. That's why I like it. - Some Schmo
charity wrote:She didn't get any additional piercings until she was 16. Since 16 year olds have more freedom, she chose to add more. Many more. We were watching conference on TV when President Hinckley made his one earring counsel. She took all of them out but one per ear right then and there.
Wait a minute...she didn't pray about it first to make sure that GBH was speaking God's will and not just personal opinion? And when she didn't, why didn't you counsel her to pray about it first? Why allow her to be a blind follower? We all know that you know better, and I would expect you to teach your children the correct principles.
If there's one thing I've learned from this board, it's that consensual sex with multiple partners is okay unless God commands it. - Abman
I find this place to be hostile toward all brands of stupidity. That's why I like it. - Some Schmo
skippy the dead wrote:Bummer about the leg - hope you can get your new knee soon. I've had 5 knee surgeries (before the age of 25) to get mine working properly, and I must say that they're useful when they work right.
Off topic a tad, but, man that's awful. I have some knee problems (probably congenital: my dad and both brothers have had extensive knee surgery, my dad had both replaced) but nothing debilitating----yet. However, I do need to get my right foot "rebuilt." I've been putting off scheduling the surgery; I don't like the idea that I'll have to stump around or be less mobile for a while. However, I should just focus on getting a cool pimp cane for when the time comes. If only I could track down one of the "magic caines" that the Friends of the Martyrs had (made from the coffins of Joseph Smith and Hyrum)...
From the Ernest L. Wilkinson Diaries: "ELW dreams he's spattered w/ grease. Hundreds steal his greasy pants."
charity wrote:She didn't get any additional piercings until she was 16. Since 16 year olds have more freedom, she chose to add more. Many more. We were watching conference on TV when President Hinckley made his one earring counsel. She took all of them out but one per ear right then and there.
Wait a minute...she didn't pray about it first to make sure that GBH was speaking God's will and not just personal opinion? And when she didn't, why didn't you counsel her to pray about it first? Why allow her to be a blind follower? We all know that you know better, and I would expect you to teach your children the correct principles.
I am sure you are more tongue in cheek with this one. Sometimes as the propeht (or soemone else for that matter) is speaking, you can get an instant witness that what he is sayng is right. You don't need to go through the study, ponder and pray process. I would say for those who had questions about the one earring thing (or anything else) then they should go through the SPP process.
Off topic: I am glad you surgeries finally worked out skippy. And Blixa, if you are suffering now, it won't get better, and if you just get it over with you will have years more ahead of you without the inconvenience and pain you are now having and you have to do it anyway sooner or later.
Eat a frog for breakfast and nothing worse can happen to you all day.
skippy the dead wrote:Bummer about the leg - hope you can get your new knee soon. I've had 5 knee surgeries (before the age of 25) to get mine working properly, and I must say that they're useful when they work right.
Off topic a tad, but, man that's awful. I have some knee problems (probably congenital: my dad and both brothers have had extensive knee surgery, my dad had both replaced) but nothing debilitating----yet. However, I do need to get my right foot "rebuilt." I've been putting off scheduling the surgery; I don't like the idea that I'll have to stump around or be less mobile for a while. However, I should just focus on getting a cool pimp cane for when the time comes. If only I could track down one of the "magic caines" that the Friends of the Martyrs had (made from the coffins of Joseph Smith and Hyrum)...
Get one like Evel Knievel that holds some Wild Turkey whiskey in it.
If there's one thing I've learned from this board, it's that consensual sex with multiple partners is okay unless God commands it. - Abman
I find this place to be hostile toward all brands of stupidity. That's why I like it. - Some Schmo
skippy the dead wrote:Bummer about the leg - hope you can get your new knee soon. I've had 5 knee surgeries (before the age of 25) to get mine working properly, and I must say that they're useful when they work right.
Off topic a tad, but, man that's awful. I have some knee problems (probably congenital: my dad and both brothers have had extensive knee surgery, my dad had both replaced) but nothing debilitating----yet. However, I do need to get my right foot "rebuilt." I've been putting off scheduling the surgery; I don't like the idea that I'll have to stump around or be less mobile for a while. However, I should just focus on getting a cool pimp cane for when the time comes. If only I could track down one of the "magic caines" that the Friends of the Martyrs had (made from the coffins of Joseph Smith and Hyrum)...
My knee problems were due to a rotation of my thigh bones that caused my knee caps to scrape along bones they're not supposed to. Eventually they cut the bones below the knee cap where the patellar tendon attached and hinged them over to correct the tracking, screwing the bone into the new location. Actually kinda cool. Awesome scars. But they work pretty well now - I've completed the Bay to Breakers race (12k) several times. It was probably a congenital thing - and both my sisters had a similar problem (mine were the only ones successfully repaired). Sad thing is, I see the same type of rotation in my oldest daughter already. Hopefully it's not as much of a problem for her. . .
Now go fix your foot. It's worth it, especially if you get to use a cool pimp cane.
I may be going to hell in a bucket, babe / But at least I'm enjoying the ride.
-Grateful Dead (lyrics by John Perry Barlow)