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_Dr. Shades
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rcrocket wrote:Jean Baptiste


LOL!!

(Am I the only one who gets this reference?)
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_guy sajer
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Post by _guy sajer »

Jason Bourne wrote:
Coggins7 wrote:I am curious who you would consider to be a "hero" in general terms from within the ranks of Mormonism and why?

For me, I'd have to Say the following are SOME of my Heroes (no particular order):

Hugh B Brown: Did the most in my opinion, fighting against all odds and Harold B Lee, etc to be a pioneer in removing the Priesthood Ban on blacks and denouncing it as a policy and declaring it was unfounded, not a revelation and not a doctrine. He convinced every apostle but Harold B Lee it was time to remove the ban since back in the 60's! If it weren't for HBL, it would've happened more than a decade earlier due to HBB leading the way.


What is your sources for the claim that Brown "fought against" Harold B. Lee? Brown was a faithful Apostle and knew perfectly well that he had no authority to alter the Church's policy without revelation from the Lord and the unanimity of the Brethren.
hurch.



Read David O Mckay and the Rise of Modern Mormomism. You can read all about the wrangling and internal struggles about this issue. It is clear that Hugh Brown was a strong advocate of ending the ban and that HBL and other apostles were not. Lee was a forceful man on this issue and even went around the FP and one point when Pres Mckay was ill to push forward a statement to be read in general conference sustaining the ban.

Really Coggins you need to be bettter informed about these issues


HBL is my hero. It takes courage to standfastly maintain one's racist views in the face of contrary social pressure. He was a man of principle, never once backing down from his view that blacks were inferior to whites. He drew a circle and nothing, not even appeals to common decency and morality, could induce him to step outside it.

Racist biggot to the end. Now that's integrity.
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Post by _Blixa »

Dr. Shades wrote:
rcrocket wrote:Jean Baptiste


LOL!!

(Am I the only one who gets this reference?)


No.
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