Scottie wrote:Charity, I think there may be a difference in an individual defaming someone and an organization defaming someone.
There have been individual defamations going on forever. But an organization doing it is a different story.
Why?
And is it defamation if it is true? I didn't read the wiki article. But I have been reading some of the comments and I have a question to ask.
Is it true that McCue has been using family and personal stories to illustrate his attacks on the Church?
If so, then he has brought the subject into the arena. As a lawyer, doesn't he know that if one side mentions something during testimony, then the other side can legitmately pursue the issue. It is called "opening the door."
So if personal and family issues are used in the attack kon the Church, then anyone who wishes to question the attack may respond to personal and family issues.
Scottie wrote:Charity, I think there may be a difference in an individual defaming someone and an organization defaming someone.
There have been individual defamations going on forever. But an organization doing it is a different story.
Why?
And is it defamation if it is true? I didn't read the wiki article. But I have been reading some of the comments and I have a question to ask.
Is it true that McCue has been using family and personal stories to illustrate his attacks on the Church?
If so, then he has brought the subject into the arena. As a lawyer, doesn't he know that if one side mentions something during testimony, then the other side can legitmately pursue the issue. It is called "opening the door."
So if personal and family issues are used in the attack kon the Church, then anyone who wishes to question the attack may respond to personal and family issues.
Personally, I don't much care about attacks from anonymous posters. But apologists who use their real names might want to be careful. It stands to reason that someone sometime is going to cross the line and face a nasty expensive lawsuit. I certainly wouldn't want to be the apologist who gets hauled into court and causes the church to be dragged through the mire with me.
FAIR or FARMS attacking and taunting critics was the first warning sign for me. This was not the same Church that said to do good things - this was not a faith promoting activity. It was wrong. The fact that the Church does nothing about this type of activity speaks for itself.
regards,
thestyleguy
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Blixa wrote:I have a copy of what was on the FAIR wiki...I can post it here if there is no "violation" of any kind in doing so. Can someone advise before I do so?
Blixa, I'd advise against it. I have notified Bob of this discussion.
"I think one of the great mysteries of the gospel is that anyone still believes it." Sethbag, MADB, Feb 22 2008
And those of you who are confabulating the Church with FAIR are being nonsensical. FAIR quite plainly states it is not owned, operated, told what to say or do, or not say or do by the Church. I guess that is too hard a concept for the most rabid among the ex-es and critics to get.
Edited to add: Isn't anybody going to comment on my question. If McCue uses hs family stories to attack the Church, is his family still out of bounds to refute the argument he makes?
charity wrote:And those of you who are confabulating the Church with FAIR are being nonsensical. FAIR quite plainly states it is not owned, operated, told what to say or do, or not say or do by the Church. I guess that is too hard a concept for the most rabid among the ex-es and critics to get.
Edited to add: Isn't anybody going to comment on my question. If McCue uses hs family stories to attack the Church, is his family still out of bounds to refute the argument he makes?
If they church knows what FAIR is doing, then it seems to me that the church should either shut them down (like they shut down the neighborhood discussion groups in the 80's), or else rein them in. FAIR doesn't do the church any favors, as evidenced by this latest debacle.