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_JAK
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Re: The Present Tragedy for the US

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Harmony,

There’s no question that there is some shared responsibility. However, the Iraq war cost (which you don’t deny) has placed the US at a decided world-wide disadvantage for influence. The present administration has produced grave disrespect for its policies and positions.

In contrast with some data on your links:

LARGEST UNIFIED SURPLUS EVER AND THE ONLY ON-BUDGET SURPLUS SINCE MEDICARE WAS ESTABLISHED

There is often times confusion about the difference between the deficit and the national debt.

The national debt is a grand total of the money we owe. The deficit is simply a measure of how much we spent vs. how much the government took in. When we spend more than we take in, there is a deficit. Every year that we run a deficit, it adds to the national debt. The national debt accrues interest and we have to pay that too.

CNN Sept. 27, 2000

CNN Oct. 24, 2000

By any objective account, the nation was moving in a different direction in late 2000 than it is moving today. Watch the stock market at the opening Tuesday, 22 January 2008.

JAK
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Re: The Present Tragedy for the US

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JAK wrote:Harmony,

There’s no question that there is some shared responsibility. However, the Iraq war cost (which you don’t deny) has placed the US at a decided world-wide disadvantage for influence. The present administration has produced grave disrespect for its policies and positions.

In contrast with some data on your links:

LARGEST UNIFIED SURPLUS EVER AND THE ONLY ON-BUDGET SURPLUS SINCE MEDICARE WAS ESTABLISHED

There is often times confusion about the difference between the deficit and the national debt.

The national debt is a grand total of the money we owe. The deficit is simply a measure of how much we spent vs. how much the government took in. When we spend more than we take in, there is a deficit. Every year that we run a deficit, it adds to the national debt. The national debt accrues interest and we have to pay that too.

CNN Sept. 27, 2000

CNN Oct. 24, 2000

By any objective account, the nation was moving in a different direction in late 2000 than it is moving today. Watch the stock market at the opening Tuesday, 22 January 2008.

JAK


That's not what you said, JAK. Shall I quote you? Of course:

More importantly, when Clinton left office, there was no deficit, unemployment was lower than today, we were not a war (on false claims by Bush II).


You said when Clinton left office, there was no deficit.

I have no beef with your attack on Bush. I think he's been a singularly poor president, but don't sugar coat Clinton. He wasn't exactly stellar either.
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hj
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