Article: "Mormon women emerging from shadows"

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Article: "Mormon women emerging from shadows"

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080130/ap_ ... on_women_1


Fairly interesting article, also touches on the priesthood issue. Near the end it makes Monson look bad with this bit:

Hinckley's likely successor, Thomas S. Monson, said in a speech last year that women should seek secular education — not to pursue careers, but because their husbands might fall ill or die.
"Whatever appears to be against the Book of Mormon is going to be overturned at some time in the future. So we can be pretty open minded."-charity 3/7/07
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Bond...James Bond wrote:http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080130/ap_on_re/mormon_women_1


Fairly interesting article, also touches on the priesthood issue. Near the end it makes Monson look bad with this bit:

Hinckley's likely successor, Thomas S. Monson, said in a speech last year that women should seek secular education — not to pursue careers, but because their husbands might fall ill or die.


How can you be in the shadows when you're on a pedestal?
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Runtu wrote:
Bond...James Bond wrote:http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080130/ap_on_re/mormon_women_1


Fairly interesting article, also touches on the priesthood issue. Near the end it makes Monson look bad with this bit:

Hinckley's likely successor, Thomas S. Monson, said in a speech last year that women should seek secular education — not to pursue careers, but because their husbands might fall ill or die.


How can you be in the shadows when you're on a pedestal?


The pedestal is cloistered.
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Bond...James Bond wrote:http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080130/ap_on_re/mormon_women_1


Fairly interesting article, also touches on the priesthood issue. Near the end it makes Monson look bad with this bit:

Hinckley's likely successor, Thomas S. Monson, said in a speech last year that women should seek secular education — not to pursue careers, but because their husbands might fall ill or die.


I have always absolutely HATED the "just in case" aspect of women seeking an education. Heaven forbid it be to plan for a career or for self-edification. Aaaarrrrgggghhhh!
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skippy the dead wrote:I have always absolutely HATED the "just in case" aspect of women seeking an education. Heaven forbid it be to plan for a career or for self-edification. Aaaarrrrgggghhhh!


Ha. Yeah can't you just see Molly Sue's line of thought...

I'm getting my education...not for a career, or for my own personal growth, or because I want to...nope. I'm going IN CASE MY (future!) HUSBAND DIES!
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Bond...James Bond wrote:
skippy the dead wrote:I have always absolutely HATED the "just in case" aspect of women seeking an education. Heaven forbid it be to plan for a career or for self-edification. Aaaarrrrgggghhhh!


Ha. Yeah can't you just see Molly Sue's line of thought...

I'm getting my education...not for a career, or for my own personal growth, or because I want to...nope. I'm going IN CASE MY HUSBAND DIES!


I know - how terribly morbid! I'm sure their hearts would totally be in it. I would discuss this at length with my feminist law professor - it bugged the unholy hell out of me.
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skippy the dead wrote:
Bond...James Bond wrote:
skippy the dead wrote:I have always absolutely HATED the "just in case" aspect of women seeking an education. Heaven forbid it be to plan for a career or for self-edification. Aaaarrrrgggghhhh!


Ha. Yeah can't you just see Molly Sue's line of thought...

I'm getting my education...not for a career, or for my own personal growth, or because I want to...nope. I'm going IN CASE MY HUSBAND DIES!


I know - how terribly morbid! I'm sure their hearts would totally be in it. I would discuss this at length with my feminist law professor - it bugged the unholy hell out of me.


I understood the huge numbers of young women who majored in ECE at BYU was because although they never planned to actually work in early childhood education, they thought it would help them raise their children.

Personally, I didn't know what I wanted to be when I grew up until I was in my early 40's and headed to grad school. And then I never worked in my speciality either. I found out I'm danged good at community mobilization. Go figure!
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Actually, I have had it all. I got my bachelor's degree 2 months after my first child was born. Stayed home, raised kids. Went back for the master's degree and then taught for 15 years before I retired.

There are women who have to leave their children to work, but any woman who does so without financial necessity is shortchaging her children and herself. Nothing that I did as a college teacher was better than what I did at home. Sure, there were frustrating times. But then being threatened by a mentally deranged student wasn't exaclty fun, either.
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charity wrote:Actually, I have had it all. I got my bachelor's degree 2 months after my first child was born. Stayed home, raised kids. Went back for the master's degree and then taught for 15 years before I retired.

There are women who have to leave their children to work, but any woman who does so without financial necessity is shortchaging her children and herself. Nothing that I did as a college teacher was better than what I did at home. Sure, there were frustrating times. But then being threatened by a mentally deranged student wasn't exaclty fun, either.


What about women who don't want children or are not suited to be mothers? Are they justified in not becoming stay-at-home moms?
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Runtu wrote:
charity wrote:Actually, I have had it all. I got my bachelor's degree 2 months after my first child was born. Stayed home, raised kids. Went back for the master's degree and then taught for 15 years before I retired.

There are women who have to leave their children to work, but any woman who does so without financial necessity is shortchaging her children and herself. Nothing that I did as a college teacher was better than what I did at home. Sure, there were frustrating times. But then being threatened by a mentally deranged student wasn't exaclty fun, either.


What about women who don't want children or are not suited to be mothers? Are they justified in not becoming stay-at-home moms?


that's what Xanax is for, remember?

Also a mantra consisting of someday ill be a mom" repeated several times on the hour every hour helps.
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