Big Brother is Monitoring your Temple Attendance

[_The Nehor]

I question whether the barcode is even associated with a name.

You have a valid point. Obviously, if names aren't associated with the recommend, then that puts to rest the idea of tracking attendance by the bar-coded recommend.

So, any membership clerks out there that can weigh in on this?

though I still can't reconcile though how the SP is getting temple attendance figures by name. I guess this makes it more likely that he was referring to ward temple trips - where some sort of checklist is used by the temple.

I'll try to remember to ask on Sunday.

[_ludwigm]

I question whether the barcode is even associated with a name.

You have a valid point. Obviously, if names aren't associated with the recommend, then that puts to rest the idea of tracking attendance by the bar-coded recommend.
So, any membership clerks out there that can weigh in on this?
though I still can't reconcile though how the SP is getting temple attendance figures by name. I guess this makes it more likely that he was referring to ward temple trips - where some sort of checklist is used by the temple.

I'll try to remember to ask on Sunday.

"I question whether the barcode is even associated with a name."
- The barcode is associated with a temple recommend.
- The temple recommend is associated with the person.

"if names aren't associated with the recommend"
- Then please tell me, what does the recommend say? It says "this is a worthy person, identified as name:xxx ward:yyy stake:zzz"

"... I still can't reconcile though how the SP is getting temple attendance figures by name. I guess ..."
- The registry is stored somewhere in the COB.
- It gets the recommend information from the wards.
- The temples use this registry for identification. The process is: 1. The owner of this recommend is here. 2. Is he/she worthy? 3. according to the answer, he/she can enter. Note the step (1): the central registry gets the data. From this point on in the central registry they have all necessary data.

The barcode is the unique descriptor of an identification card/paper/document for a certain person, in a certain system.

"I'll try to remember to ask on Sunday"
- Your information will be welcomed.

[_charity]

I recently had to renew my temple recommend just after our stake was included in the bar code system. I specifically asked the stake president if there were going to be reports sent back to him about individual temple attendance, and he said no.

[_why me]

Then this makes me think that the SP was referring specifically to ward temple trips. Perhaps the temple has a list of people who signed up, and as people show up, they check off the names. And then the temple sends this information. back to the SP. I don't know.

Why don't you go and ask the SP what he meant? This would save a lot of time and energy on this thread. You may have misunderstood the SP or not heard all information from his lips as you stated in the OP.

Go ask the SP and get back to us. :=)

[_why me]

I recently had to renew my temple recommend just after our stake was included in the bar code system. I specifically asked the stake president if there were going to be reports sent back to him about individual temple attendance, and he said no.

That good enough for me. But will it be good enough for the rest on this thread? Perhaps not. A good horse should not be allowed to die peacefully....

[_Jason Bourne]

We have lots of temple workers in my ward and in fact the temple pres lives in our ward as well.I will ask him.

Is that the mt. timp. temple pres.? If so, perfect! I'd love to hear what he has to say. Even if he's temple pres. of a different temple, I'm sure he has some insight into this.

Thanks!

No

I live no where near Utah County.

[_Jason Bourne]

I question whether the barcode is even associated with a name.

You have a valid point. Obviously, if names aren't associated with the recommend, then that puts to rest the idea of tracking attendance by the bar-coded recommend.

So, any membership clerks out there that can weigh in on this?

though I still can't reconcile though how the SP is getting temple attendance figures by name. I guess this makes it more likely that he was referring to ward temple trips - where some sort of checklist is used by the temple.

The bar code is associated with a name. When it is scanned your name comes up on the screen. Anyone there who sees the screen can say-Welcome to the temple Brother whatever your last name is...even if they have never met you.

[_The Nehor]

I question whether the barcode is even associated with a name.

You have a valid point. Obviously, if names aren't associated with the recommend, then that puts to rest the idea of tracking attendance by the bar-coded recommend.

So, any membership clerks out there that can weigh in on this?

though I still can't reconcile though how the SP is getting temple attendance figures by name. I guess this makes it more likely that he was referring to ward temple trips - where some sort of checklist is used by the temple.

The bar code is associated with a name. When it is scanned your name comes up on the screen. Anyone there who sees the screen can say-Welcome to the temple Brother whatever your last name is...even if they have never met you.

I often welcomed people by name when I worked at the Recommend desk. The name is written on the Recommend.

[_Dr. Shades]

though I still can't reconcile though how the SP is getting temple attendance figures by name.

Maybe your particular Stake President was just exaggerating the truth? Trying to use subtle scare tactics to get more people to attend, perhaps?

[_Jason Bourne]

I question whether the barcode is even associated with a name.

You have a valid point. Obviously, if names aren't associated with the recommend, then that puts to rest the idea of tracking attendance by the bar-coded recommend.

So, any membership clerks out there that can weigh in on this?

though I still can't reconcile though how the SP is getting temple attendance figures by name. I guess this makes it more likely that he was referring to ward temple trips - where some sort of checklist is used by the temple.

The bar code is associated with a name. When it is scanned your name comes up on the screen. Anyone there who sees the screen can say-Welcome to the temple Brother whatever your last name is...even if they have never met you.

I often welcomed people by name when I worked at the Recommend desk. The name is written on the Recommend.

In this case there was a recommend taker. The temple president who does is not looking at the recommend is there and he sees your name on the screen and says Welcome Brother....