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_the road to hana
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by _the road to hana » Sat Feb 02, 2008 1:59 am
charity wrote: the road to hana wrote: Then how can you be sure that seer stones aren't the same?
The recorded use of seerstones by prophets are for revealing God's word. When the reader has a confirmation of that word as God's word, it is clearly not from Satan.
You think Satan is incapable of deception?
Other than Joseph Smith's word for the above, whose recorded word do you have?
The road is beautiful, treacherous, and full of twists and turns.
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by _charity » Sat Feb 02, 2008 2:03 am
the road to hana wrote: You think Satan is incapable of deception? Other than Joseph Smith's word for the above, whose recorded word do you have?
Of course, Satan is capable of deceiving people. I try to live a lifestyle that makes that much less likely.
The use of seerstones, of which the Urim and Thummim are a type, is Biblical.
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by _the road to hana » Sat Feb 02, 2008 2:13 am
charity wrote: the road to hana wrote: You think Satan is incapable of deception? Other than Joseph Smith's word for the above, whose recorded word do you have?
Of course, Satan is capable of deceiving people. I try to live a lifestyle that makes that much less likely.
But you got sucked in by Ouija boards, which you believe to be evil?
The use of seerstones, of which the Urim and Thummim are a type, is Biblical.
Lucky for Joseph. Does that mean you think Satan is incapable of using them for his own ends to deceive?
The road is beautiful, treacherous, and full of twists and turns.
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by _harmony » Sat Feb 02, 2008 2:17 am
charity wrote: the road to hana wrote: You think Satan is incapable of deception? Other than Joseph Smith's word for the above, whose recorded word do you have?
Of course, Satan is capable of deceiving people. I try to live a lifestyle that makes that much less likely.
The use of seerstones, of which the Urim and Thummim are a type, is Biblical.
I'm impressed. You said that with a straight face.
Good grief.
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by _charity » Sat Feb 02, 2008 2:20 am
the road to hana wrote: But you got sucked in by Ouija boards, which you believe to be evil?
I was a stupid teenager. What can I say?
The use of seerstones, of which the Urim and Thummim are a type, is Biblical.
the road to hana wrote: Lucky for Joseph. Does that mean you think Satan is incapable of using them for his own ends to deceive?
Yes. Seerstones and the Urim and Thummim work on principles of faith. Satan can't duplicate that.
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by _charity » Sat Feb 02, 2008 2:23 am
harmony wrote: charity wrote: the road to hana wrote: You think Satan is incapable of deception? Other than Joseph Smith's word for the above, whose recorded word do you have?
Of course, Satan is capable of deceiving people. I try to live a lifestyle that makes that much less likely.
The use of seerstones, of which the Urim and Thummim are a type, is Biblical.
I'm impressed. You said that with a straight face.
Good grief.
YOu can't tell what I say with a straight face, BECAUSE SHADES WON'T LET US HAVE SMILIES.
Bujt I would like to be let in on the joke. I really don't know what you are referring to with the "straight face" comment. Please clarify.
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by _the road to hana » Sat Feb 02, 2008 2:23 am
charity wrote: the road to hana wrote: But you got sucked in by Ouija boards, which you believe to be evil?
I was a stupid teenager. What can I say?
Weren't you also a teenager when you joined the LDS Church?
charity wrote: the road to hana wrote: charity wrote: The use of seerstones, of which the Urim and Thummim are a type, is Biblical.
Lucky for Joseph. Does that mean you think Satan is incapable of using them for his own ends to deceive?
Yes. Seerstones and the Urim and Thummim work on principles of faith. Satan can't duplicate that.
Why not?
The road is beautiful, treacherous, and full of twists and turns.
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by _charity » Sat Feb 02, 2008 2:26 am
the road to hana wrote: charity wrote: I was a stupid teenager. What can I say?
Weren't you also a teenager when you joined the LDS Church?
19 1/2. That is a lot different than a 14-year-old.
The use of seerstones, of which the Urim and Thummim are a type, is Biblical.
Lucky for Joseph. Does that mean you think Satan is incapable of using them for his own ends to deceive?
charity wrote: Yes. Seerstones and the Urim and Thummim work on principles of faith. Satan can't duplicate that.
the road to hana wrote: Why not?
Satan does not have the power to do so. He has limitations. The biggest limitation is that he can only have power that we give him.
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by _the road to hana » Sat Feb 02, 2008 2:31 am
charity wrote: the road to hana wrote: charity wrote: I was a stupid teenager. What can I say?
Weren't you also a teenager when you joined the LDS Church?
19 1/2. That is a lot different than a 14-year-old.
You were incapable of being deceived at that age?
charity wrote: the road to hana wrote: charity wrote: the road to hana wrote: charity wrote: The use of seerstones, of which the Urim and Thummim are a type, is Biblical.
Lucky for Joseph. Does that mean you think Satan is incapable of using them for his own ends to deceive?
Yes. Seerstones and the Urim and Thummim work on principles of faith. Satan can't duplicate that.
Why not?
Satan does not have the power to do so. He has limitations. The biggest limitation is that he can only have power that we give him.
Do you think Satan was incapable of deceiving Joseph Smith? You? Anyone else?
The road is beautiful, treacherous, and full of twists and turns.
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by _Moniker » Sat Feb 02, 2008 2:46 am
I hate ouija boards! I also hate the ideometer effect!