whats wrong with a little wine?

[_Jersey Girl]

All Hail the god of Lipton!

Jersey Girl

Oh, I fear you worship a false god, Jersey Girl. All Hail the god of espresso in its many forms!

My blood type is Lipton
;-)

[_Tori]

Speaking of wine......A certain handsome guy and I are heading down to Sonoma this weekend. Yippee! (insert excited smilie here...Oh heck, I'll put my own in

I'll be sure to have some wine in honor of my favorite people here!

Rick will have some too! :-)

That’s great! But keep moderation in mind on wine.

I’ll have a little sip to your health as we speak.

JAK

Oh, don't worry. Moderation is my middle name. ;-) No, seriously, we love that area and visit a couple of times a year. We were just there in October right when the leaves were changing. It will be a nice change of scenery. I'm getting a little bit of cabin fever.

The nice thing about going to wine-country, is that, that is the place to really learn about the different wines, how the grapes grow, what variety grows best in that area.....it's the romance of Wine Country that becomes addicting.

[_krose]

I was skeptical of the initial position that there was no caffeine in chocolate.

It was a quote in a post by krose. That may be where I saw it. (Mon Feb 04, 2008 3:57 pm)

It was that statement with which I took issue.

I really didn't want to continue this line of discussion, but I have to "take issue" with the fact that you "take issue" with a particular post, while ignoring subsequent replies that clarified the initial statement. You're plowing already tilled soil.

[_Sethbag]

All Hail the god of Lipton!

Jersey Girl

Oh, I fear you worship a false god, Jersey Girl. All Hail the god of espresso in its many forms!

My blood type is Lipton
;-)

Lipton is shyte. Try some good English Breakfast tea, or one of many other good choices.

[_Boaz & Lidia]

The WoW was revelated as Joseph Smith and early church members were getting drunk and Emma Smith said to her husband that she thought it wrong and so that is where it came from.

Almost. Emma was tired of cleaning the mess that came from chewing tobacco and tobacco. She had to clean it up. But yes, drunkenness is not holiness, in my opinion. And so god gave a good call.

I still cringe when I see a catholic priest smoking a cigarette.

This coming from a 30 year hypocrite who rarely attend LDS church services.

Do your homework for a change, before you you go spouting off the same old drivel that was forced feed to you, back in that days when you attended church, K?

Smith was a known copycat. Taking someone else's ideas and foisting them onto his unwitting followers as something divine, when all it just bovine excrement.

It would be like Hinckley five years ago saying god told him that a low carb diet was good for you. Most Mormons would sing hosanna and the never mos would be saying no duh you old doofus, that is called the Atkins diet.

There was a movement back in Smith's day similar to the Atkins diet rage. It was perpetuated by a Presbyterian minister named Sylvester Graham. He was an early advocate of dietary reform in United States most notable for his emphasis on vegetarianism, and the temperance movement.

Smith was not the first person to speak against the use of alcohol, hot drinks, and meat. Hell, he did not even practice what he preached. Graham did.

It was not a requirement for a TR until much later in the SLC valley and was done so for marketing PR and cult bonding.

There is NOTHING in the WoW that explicitly forbids tea or coffee, only HOT drinks.

On April 7, 1868, the Mormon Apostle George Q. Cannon stated that chocolate drinks and hot soups were forbidden:

"We are told, and very plainly too, that hot drinks--tea, coffee, chocolate, cocoa and all drinks of this kind are not good for man....we must feed our children properly.... We must not permit them to drink liquor or hot drinks, or hot soups or to use tobacco or other articles that are injurious." (Journal of Discourses, Vol. 12, pp. 221 & 223)

All of you hot chocolate swilling Mormons are wrong according to this servant of the Lord.

The WoW demonstates the inconstancy of so called modern revelation. Mormons will cry out, "Joseph and the later prophets DEFINED hot drinks as coffee and tea!!"

Really? Guess what? At that same time they were also saying that polygamy was REQUIRED to get to heaven. Why not obey THAT one also?

You Mormons are a bunch of dipwad screw ups too afraid to think on your own.

[_Boaz & Lidia]

Speaking of wine......A certain handsome guy and I are heading down to Sonoma this weekend. Yippee! (insert excited smilie here...Oh heck, I'll put my own in

I'll be sure to have some wine in honor of my favorite people here!

Rick will have some too! :-)

That’s great! But keep moderation in mind on wine.

I’ll have a little sip to your health as we speak.

JAK-mormon

Your name is very fitting

[_JAK]

Speaking of wine......A certain handsome guy and I are heading down to Sonoma this weekend. Yippee! (insert excited smilie here...Oh heck, I'll put my own in

I'll be sure to have some wine in honor of my favorite people here!

Rick will have some too! :-)

That’s great! But keep moderation in mind on wine.

I’ll have a little sip to your health as we speak.

JAK-mormon

Your name is very fitting

A disagreement in view or perspective is to be expected. Falsifying the identity of a poster is not. And since posts are often far removed from their original place placing a different signature to a post is unethical, dishonest, and reprehensible.

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Boaz & Lidia, your point in another post is a good one as you stated:

“All of you hot chocolate swilling Mormons are wrong according to this servant of the Lord.

The WoW demonstates the inconstancy of so called modern revelation. Mormons will cry out, "Joseph and the later prophets DEFINED hot drinks as coffee and tea!!"

Really? Guess what? At that same time they were also saying that polygamy was REQUIRED to get to heaven. Why not obey THAT one also?

You Mormons are a bunch of dipwad screw ups too afraid to think on your own.”

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It’s an example of cafeteria style doctrine/dogma.

Even in the very short history of Mormonism, we can trace doctrinal shifts.

This is an example.

JAK

[_Jersey Girl]

All Hail the god of Lipton!

Jersey Girl

Oh, I fear you worship a false god, Jersey Girl. All Hail the god of espresso in its many forms!

My blood type is Lipton
;-)

Lipton is shyte. Try some good English Breakfast tea, or one of many other good choices.

Correction: Tetley is shyte. I do have English Breakfast....prefer Lipton. Thanks very much.

[_Boaz & Lidia]

Speaking of wine......A certain handsome guy and I are heading down to Sonoma this weekend. Yippee! (insert excited smilie here...Oh heck, I'll put my own in

I'll be sure to have some wine in honor of my favorite people here!

Rick will have some too! :-)

That’s great! But keep moderation in mind on wine.

I’ll have a little sip to your health as we speak.

JAK-mormon

Your name is very fitting

A disagreement in view or perspective is to be expected. Falsifying the identity of a poster is not. And since posts are often far removed from their original place placing a different signature to a post is unethical, dishonest, and reprehensible.

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Boaz & Lidia, your point in another post is a good one as you stated:

“All of you hot chocolate swilling Mormons are wrong according to this servant of the Lord.

The WoW demonstates the inconstancy of so called modern revelation. Mormons will cry out, "Joseph and the later prophets DEFINED hot drinks as coffee and tea!!"

Really? Guess what? At that same time they were also saying that polygamy was REQUIRED to get to heaven. Why not obey THAT one also?

You Mormons are a bunch of dipwad screw ups too afraid to think on your own.”

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It’s an example of cafeteria style doctrine/dogma.

Even in the very short history of Mormonism, we can trace doctrinal shifts.

This is an example.

JAK

Hey JAK-mormon, your post implied you would be drinking wine.

Did you drink any alcoholic wine?

A simple yes or no answer please.

A yes answer will make you a JAK-mormon (a.k.a. Jack Mormon just like your name) as the LDS canon explicitly forbids wine.

[_JAK]

Hey JAK-mormon, your post implied you would be drinking wine.

Did you drink any alcoholic wine?

A simple yes or no answer please.

A yes answer will make you a JAK-mormon (a.k.a. Jack Mormon just like your name) as the LDS canon explicitly forbids wine.[/quote]
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Boaz & Lidia,

You’re not listening/reading or simply choose to be dishonest. Why don’t you log into my profile and read a number of posts which I have added to this forum?

While you deserve no response here, I’ll give you one. And if you post again ever misquote me and signing me as you have, you’ll never get another response from me.
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I had the wine.

I have never been a Mormon.

I subscribe to no theism. Therefore, I might be characterized as an atheist-agnostic.

My name is not “Jack.”

Now that final reminder: If you ever misquote me again as you have, or if you ever place my signature as you have, you will receive no response.

JAK