The terrestrial forum.

Post by **_Imwashingmypirate** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 6:13 pm

Ren, your ideas are fine. I was just getting frustrated because I couldn't seem to get my point across and maybe that is my own problem. We can either set out to make a change or leave it as is is and the only way is a fresh start and setting the rules clearly. When I first came I didn't know what to write or where. There ought to be a clearer guideline than "don't be stupid".

Liz what you are saying makes sense in someway, but then why is it that the telestial forum is not as popular.

Ren again it is a matter of what people post and where.

My only fear is that if too many changes are made to the board that people will leave. I guess it is a matter of, if it's not broke then don't fix it. We will always want more and better. The board is fine. People just need something that will interest them and if we are too busy looking out for what other people come up with we will get no where in terms of interest.

That is why I suggest people go away, study a topic and come back and discuss it thoroughly, who knows we might even collectively come up with a great idea. A bit like homework.

Post by **_Imwashingmypirate** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 6:20 pm

OK Ren. But think about it. If there are not enough Mods to stop blatent spam, then how can there be enought to look after the celestrial forum?
I think it would be a good idea (however difficult Shades might think it) that people are consigned to a certain job. This might not work as Shades cannot limit where people moderate but he could trust the people and create a contract via PM that would legally state that such person is only allowed to moderate a certain area and have more than one person for each area so that every room that should be moderated is moderated and he can state within this contract type thing how the moderation should go about. And then more focus can be made on certain things as mods will have more time.

Post by **_Ren** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 6:22 pm

Pirate wrote:My only fear is that if too many changes are made to the board that people will leave. I guess it is a matter of, if it's not broke then don't fix it. We will always want more and better. The board is fine. People just need something that will interest them and if we are too busy looking out for what other people come up with we will get no where in terms of interest.

I get what ya saying. And it's weird me going on about this because - as I keep saying - personally, I don't mind the current set-up that much at all.

...but I do see what others are saying. We have these rooms, with (what are supposed to be) different rules, and I have plenty of time for the argument that we should do our best to get those rooms to work effectively by those rules.

I'm not arguing this for me personally. I'm arguing this because I think it makes sense, and this board isn't just about me. The lack of ability to start an interesting thread with the confidence that it won't get derailed or burnt down is a genuine one with many posters here.
The Celestial forum - in my mind could help. Perhaps if more stuff could be moved up there. But I just don't think it's as simple as getting people to start threads up there. I could be wrong of course - I'm just getting my opinion across...

Post by **_Ren** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 6:26 pm

Pirate wrote:OK Ren. But think about it. If there are not enough Mods to stop blatent spam, then how can there be enought to look after the celestrial forum?

This is what I've been saying Pirate.
If you give mods more 'powers' in the Celestial room only, then the same number of mods can moderate the forum better and more effectively.
However, the scary possibility there is that the mods go power-mad and smash free-speech with fury and vengeance!

True, but I'm saying: "Just in the Celestial forum, which is advertised as 'Heavy moderation' anyway"...

You get what I'm saying? You don't have to agree with me, but do you get my point of view?

Post by **_Imwashingmypirate** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 6:29 pm

I understand you Ren, but are you understanding me?

I have already asked Shades about the idea of moderating a certain aspect of the forum and he said something along the lines of, moderation cannot be limited and yes there are people out there that are power mad and that is why Shades could introduce contracts as such. Oh and sort of post people he trusts will do a good job.

Post by **_Ren** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 6:37 pm

Pirate wrote:I understand you Ren, but are you understanding me?

I think so. I just wanted to make sure you were happy about where I'm at before moving on further...

Yeah - contracts can be drawn up and such. But I don't see that as really anything central or necessary. If the mod doesn't do the right thing, they get told so. If they keep doing wrong things, you get rid of them and get someone else. Who decides that? The admins. I don't think it needs to be more complicated than that.

For myself, I can't see Bond and Liz going nutso with increased powers only in the Celestial room, but obviously my lone opinion doesn't mean that much. If they do, they get warned or bumped / replaced. Or we give up on the idea. Whatever.

But honestly - I'm kinda tired of talking about this now.
I'm going to keep repeating to myself *It's only an internet board* 1000 times. I'll be back later :)

Post by **_Imwashingmypirate** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 6:44 pm

OK. *Banging head off table*

I was saying. If someone is assigned to an area, they can concentrate on moderating that area more and thus the celestrial forum can be moderated better.

Post by **_Ren** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 6:47 pm

Pirate wrote:I was saying. If someone is assigned to an area, they can concentrate on moderating that area more and thus the celestrial forum can be moderated better.

It might be a bit more effective I guess. I agree.
But I don't think it will make 'that' much difference. Not as much difference as giving them it bit more authority in the Celestial forum.

Just my opinion.

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Post by **_Imwashingmypirate** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 6:53 pm

Ren. life revolves around the internet, no matter how much you drum it into your self, it still has impact on our day to day lives. We are just as offended by people on line as we are in real life.

Post by **_Ren** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 7:01 pm

Pirate wrote:Ren. life revolves around the internet, no matter how much you drum it into your self, it still has impact on our day to day lives. We are just as offended by people on line as we are in real life.

You're right of course. My counting wasn't working it all :)