MADB suspended me for reporting a post?

[_The Dude]

If you're interested in the whole hofmann thing, you should read Salamander: The Story of the Mormon Forgery Murders.

Even if you don't care about the hofmann story, it's really an interesting, keep you on the edge of your seat, book.

A fantastic book! I think I'm going to read it again.

[_Runtu]

If you're interested in the whole hofmann thing, you should read Salamander: The Story of the Mormon Forgery Murders.

Even if you don't care about the hofmann story, it's really an interesting, keep you on the edge of your seat, book.

A fantastic book! I think I'm going to read it again.

Hey, Dude, where have you been? It's good to see you again.

[_Scottie]

Goodness...I posted this:

God does all kinds of immoral things, and, yes, lying and deceiving are in there too.

Except that it ceases to become immoral if God does it. Since God is the creator of the law, God can break His own laws without consequence.

That doesn't seem any better than what CK posted...

I think it was when you mentioned Joseph Smith in there. That crosses the line.

[_EAllusion]

Read this thread from ZLMB:

http://p094.ezboard.com/fpacumenispages ... =1&stop=20

Note Juliann's mentality here. That is why what happened happened.

For a funny twofer, here is DCP comparing RFM to Oceania in Orwell's 1984:

http://p094.ezboard.com/For-ExMormons/f ... D=89.topic

Of course, MADB has become Orwellian to an absurd degree. In the online world, the only equivalent behavior I am familiar with on a personal basis is websites dedicated to fundamentalist apologetics in general and creationism/intelligent design in particular. Something tells me that DCP isn't spending his time comparing FAIR to Oceania. Fortunately, this is one bit of history they cannot erase or rewrite.

[_beastie]

Ah, thanks for that trip down memory lane. That was one of my first exposures to Juliann's logic, which is as follows:

1 - Mormons create discussion board specifically designed to allow for interaction between critic and believing LDS

2 - critics show up and do what they do, ie, criticize the LDS church and its teachings

3 - believers insist that number 2 is evidence that critics don't "respect boundaries", and the mere fact that critics show up and do what they do constitutes an attack, and LDS are justified in responding aggressively back

For a long time on Z I believed that this Juliannite theory was a minority. But, like a virus, it spread and grew and resulted in the demise of Z. It's now epidemic at MAD.

[_EAllusion]

You can see that Juliann quite plainly thinks that abrasive, "bad" behavior on the part of LDS towards those who openly criticize her faith is justifiable, if not downright proper. It's why reporting an LDS for such behavior to her might be a problem in of itself. It shows you are on the wrong side. In the words of infamous scientologist concept, perceived enemies of the faith are "fair game."

[_beastie]

I love this particular comment of Juliann's:

"The suffering caused by having to say no to a few contacts a year by unwanted people could never be compared to the behavior of those who daily put out little but sneering, demeaning, disdainful, hateful, nitpicking assaults on LDS beliefs."

One could be forgiven for thinking Juliann was referring to LDS being subjected against their will to sneering, demeaning, disdainful, hateful, nitpicking assaults on their beliefs.

But wait! No, she's referring to what LDS who participated on Z had to put up with!!!

One could be forgiven for thinking that Z was run by horribly biased exmormon moderators who allowed the critics to engage in all this horrific behavior at the expense of LDS.

But wait!! Once again, this is ZLMB we're talking about - owned and run largely by believers, with a few token nonbelievers thrown in to try to obtain some balance in moderating.

And what's funny is that apparently Juliann still feels so assaulted on MAD, even as rigged against critics as the place is. Yet she keeps coming back for more, more, more.

Has anyone ever told Juliann that LDS only boards actually exist? And might even allow her to join?

What these people want is to easily dismantle and debunk critic's positions, and they can't. It eats them alive. It drives them crazy. Since their True Believerhood doesn't allow them to actually recognize the source of their frustration - the inability to successfully debunk critics' arguments (with occasional exceptions) - they cast about for a cause of their angst.