The Truth About MDB.

[_Runtu]

This is a singularly preposterous thread. Whoever created the sockpuppets (and they're obviously sockpuppets) did a rather despicable thing, and it's just bizarre for anyone to pin the sockpuppets' behavior on Shades.

[_beastie]

(edited because I found the complaint thread)

Here's the reason cal gave for banning shades.

http://p094.ezboard.com/fpacumenispages ... D=11.topic

Shades continues to allow libel, gossip and personal discussions including maligning individuals' family members about individuals participating and not participating on his board and connected blogs. His one halfhearted attempt at respecting privacy appears to be removing names after they've been posted up IF an individual asks for removal instead of requiring permission to post from the individuals concerned prior to posting.

Given this, I see the only ethical and logical way to fulfill Shades' demand for the full protection that ZLMB provides for posters that actually respect others' privacy is to ban him.

This will include eliminating any discussion of himself though continued discussion dealing solely with his personal pet theory of Chapel/Internet Mormonism as well as his Sunstone Presentation is competely acceptable, just keep strictly to the theory and not the creator.

Thank you,

Cal

LSD has enough moderators in her corner who are willing to work with her that I am removing the ban.

However, in the future, LSD needs to confine her complaints about privacy violations and other individual related complaints to those about herself. She may, of course, encourage others off the board to complain, but should not act for them.

Wow. I guess the MAD practice of censoring posters for behavior on OTHER boards had infected cal by this point.

It's obvious the sock puppets were a "retribution" for Scratch's blog, along with the Itchy blog. Equally obvious was the fact that the perpetrators of both had long histories at Z - long enough to nurture a grudge against harmony from her early days on the board. She was one of the first to be targeted despite the fact that she had NOTHING to do with scratch's blogs. That narrows the suspects considerably. Factoring in cal's bizarre reaction to all this - banning shades - then it does seem to point straight towards Juliann.

Heh. Yeah, I would say this thread backfired on Ray big-time.

[_Mister Scratch]

My God, Ray. What an idiot you are. Once again, your white-hot rage has incapacitated your ability to think straight. It really is baffling that, in your Ahab-like quest to stick a harpoon into me, you would want to attack Dr. Shades this way. Shades had nothing whatsoever to do with those extremely nasty ZLMB posts. If anything, those posts were retaliation for the dossiers I'd done on Pahoran and juliann. Do you not remember the "Mr. Itchy" blog at all? You need to make sure you've got your facts straight before you start flailing about in this fashion.

Anyways, I looked pretty deeply into this whole affair not terribly long ago. (Just ask Jersey Girl, who is also innocent in this.) If you want another "lead," I suggest that you look up the posts of "Mrs. Robbins" using the search engine right here on MDB. Based on the style, it seems pretty likely that "Mrs. Robbins" was juliann. Also, according to at least one "tipster," the Mr. Itchy blog employed British spellings (e.g., "favour") which were later edited out.

If you want to know a bit more about how your LDS pals on MAD behave, Ray, then know this: juliann, Pahoran and Co. threw Kerry Shirts under the bus during all of this. In other words, juliann and/or Pah both deliberately wrote posts on Z with the intention of making Shades, Jersey, and et. al. think that Shirts was behind the whole "Mr. Itchy" fiasco. Real nice folks, eh?

This really cuts to the chase about why I have issues with you, Ray. Aside from the fact that you began screaming that I was a "LIAR!!!" long before my "Many Faces of Ray A" thread, and despite your knuckledheaded conspiracy theories about the "LDS holocaust," you are essentially battling on behalf of people such as Pahoran and juliann, and attacking innocents like Dr. Shades in the process.

You want to continue going after me? Fine, because hey---let's face it---I *am* kind of a bastard sometimes. I readily admit it. But, for the most part, I do try to get at the truth, and do try to honestly put the Mopologists in their place. But Dr. Shades is innocent. No need to attack him to get at me, mate.

[_beastie]

I just have to add this trip down memory lane - the only reason I knew Juliann's real name was because her friend Jan posted at Z about her FAIR article and linked the article containing her full name. And the reason I knew Pahoran's real name was due to the fact that several posters referred to him by it on Z. Pahoran later requested his real name no longer be used.

Jan links Juliann's article:
http://p094.ezboard.com/fpacumenispages ... 26&stop=44

[_beastie]

Another lead - the itchy poster AND the sock puppets of Z really had it out for harmony. Harmony's big offense for which a small group of TBM Zombies were never, never, able to forgive or forget, was that she and a couple of her noninternet friends created a personna called WAZ just for Z. WAZ posted as a "chapel" Mormon to the extreme. WAZ was treated very badly by Juliann and her crowd, with few exceptions. Harmony (as serenity) later explained what WAZ was. There are a couple of Zombies who have had it out for her ever since. Juliann primary among them.

I may have the name WAZ wrong. If harmony's reading, maybe she can clarify. I did a search to try and find the WAZ posts but didn't get any hits.

Harmony had nothing, NOTHING, to do with scratch's blog, and yet she was one of the first targets, about whom the most personal information was revealed. AND Harmony had never revealed this information about herself, so clearly someone had been studying and used clues to figure out her real life identity. in my opinion, this means the itchy and Z sock puppets were among that small group of believers who felt humiliated by the WAZ incident.

[_Mister Scratch]

Another lead - the itchy poster AND the sock puppets of Z really had it out for harmony. Harmony's big offense for which a small group of TBM Zombies were never, never, able to forgive or forget, was that she and a couple of her noninternet friends created a personna called WAZ just for Z. WAZ posted as a "chapel" Mormon to the extreme. WAZ was treated very badly by Juliann and her crowd, with few exceptions. Harmony (as serenity) later explained what WAZ was. There are a couple of Zombies who have had it out for her ever since. Juliann primary among them.

I may have the name WAZ wrong. If harmony's reading, maybe she can clarify. I did a search to try and find the WAZ posts but didn't get any hits.

It was actually "WAZing," and unless I'm mistaken, WAZing was booted/deleted, and the entire Z-board shut down (for a couple of days!), due to WAZing's utter humiliation of DCP.

Harmony had nothing, NOTHING, to do with scratch's blog, and yet she was one of the first targets, about whom the most personal information was revealed. AND Harmony had never revealed this information about herself, so clearly someone had been studying and used clues to figure out her real life identity. in my opinion, this means the itchy and Z sock puppets were among that small group of believers who felt humiliated by the WAZ incident.

Good points. There are a few sockpuppets registered to THIS site who were probably related to the whole fiasco in some way as well. There was another poster targeted on Itchy which strongly suggests Pahoran's involvement. (Moreover, there is a registered "Mr. Itchy" on MAD---or at least there was---that provides further clues.)

[_beastie]

Here's an old Z thread discussing the WAZing incident, started by shades as an odd coincidence.

http://p094.ezboard.com/fpacumenispages ... =1&stop=25

[_Mister Scratch]

Here's an old Z thread discussing the WAZing incident, started by shades as an odd coincidence.

http://p094.ezboard.com/fpacumenispages ... =1&stop=25

LOL!! Oh, man, classic. Check out Scotty-dog "The Fascist" Lloyd (a.k.a. "Opie Rockwell"):

In the Internet world, which essentially runs without law or regulation, the practice of trolling is held in near-universal contempt. I think there is good reason for this. Most people intuitively feel that there is something innately odious and obnoxious about deliberately provoking others to satisfy one�s own perverse whim or to gratify a sense of moral superiority. It is particularly antithetical to a board like this one, which endeavors to maintain some sense of academic decorum.

If I ran a message board and somebody pulled a stunt like the WAZing incident, that person would be off the board for good. The fact that Serenity/Harmony maintains a presence here is a credit to the forbearance of Pacumeni. Let him and others be warned, however, that since she asserts that she makes no apologies for it, one could assume she would have no qualms about doing something similar in the future.

One more thing: There is something blatantly inconsisent about declaring that "no one needs chastening for any action that is legal" and then justifying one's own attempt to provoke bad behavior so that one can then administer reproof.

(emphasis added)

Scotty-dog really, really hates sockpuppetry, and yet (suprise!) guess who's posting on the same thread, in sockpuppet form? Yep: "FreeThinker," a.k.a., DCP. The Good Professor has better hope that Lloyd doesn't take over MAD any time soon. If that happened, Scott would have to own up to his hypocrisy and two-facedness in pretty short order.

[_beastie]

Heh, now that I know the right name, WAzing, boy did I hit the motherload with this google search:

http://www.google.com/search?q=+site:p0 ... art=0&sa=N

I may just plow through some of these tonight to pay attention to whom was the most burned by WAzing.

[_dartagnan]

Juliann Reynolds used to be her moniker at FAIR in the early days of that forum.

What is she afraid of?