Credentials

[_antishock8]

The Mormon god is not different from the Christian god. He always gets a pass. If a Mormon President screws up a decision he was just acting like a man, and the Mormon god is allowing him to learn. If a Mormon President gets something right, then that's proof that the Mormon god works through His minions and all is well in Zion. It's no different here in the South with Christians, and their churches. It's the same exact mindset.

For example, we recently had a spate of tornadoes come through the South killing something like 60 people. One of the tornadoes hit a church. Some Christians assumed the church had fallen into a state of sinfulness, while other Christians were awed that no one inside died.

Jesus loves tornadoes.

I mean, are Mormons really that daft? I was a Mormon. Reality became self-evident after a while. All the Mormons on this board and others know the truth about their church. They just ignore it, and carry on thinking on some level that it's a good way to live/a test of faith/all will be revealed after they're dead. Those are simply coping mechanisms that allow the Mormon to exist within his or her own construct (I'll refrain from mentioning cog dis since that has become a thought-terminating cliché for Mormons). What's disturbing is that part of the deal they make with their own psyches, in order to quell that mental tinnitus, is to evangelize and attempt to convince others their construct is real. If they succeed the buzzing diminishes and peace, temporarily, is achieved.

What a shame.

[_JAK]

The Mormon god is not different from the Christian god. He always gets a pass. If a Mormon President screws up a decision he was just acting like a man, and the Mormon god is allowing him to learn. If a Mormon President gets something right, then that's proof that the Mormon god works through His minions and all is well in Zion. It's no different here in the South with Christians, and their churches. It's the same exact mindset.

For example, we recently had a spate of tornadoes come through the South killing something like 60 people. One of the tornadoes hit a church. Some Christians assumed the church had fallen into a state of sinfulness, while other Christians were awed that no one inside died.

Jesus loves tornadoes.

I mean, are Mormons really that daft? I was a Mormon. Reality became self-evident after a while. All the Mormons on this board and others know the truth about their church. They just ignore it, and carry on thinking on some level that it's a good way to live/a test of faith/all will be revealed after they're dead. Those are simply coping mechanisms that allow the Mormon to exist within his or her own construct (I'll refrain from mentioning cog dis since that has become a thought-terminating cliché for Mormons). What's disturbing is that part of the deal they make with their own psyches, in order to quell that mental tinnitus, is to evangelize and attempt to convince others their construct is real. If they succeed the buzzing diminishes and peace, temporarily, is achieved.

What a shame.

On another thread, a question was implied: Are Jehovah Witnesses Dangerous?

All religions are dangerous. They seek to destroy the intellect replacing it with dogma not derived from reason and evidence. Charity has given a wealth of examples demonstrating that far more voluminous than even your posts here (antishock8, RM, and ludwigm) can encompass. That’s not criticism of you but a compliment in as much as you have pointed to the same conclusion many times as you have address Charity’s remarks.

JAK

[_harmony]

The Church has THE authority to act in God's name, and none of the other organzied religions do. It is not self-made, but God revealed. It may not be perfect, but then God has only mortal men to work with and through.

Then it shouldn't be too hard to prove that the authority actually exists. Chapter and verse, date, place, time, and witnesses, please. Suppositions do not support your point. Authority is a serious business. Surely Joseph had the revelation that recorded the most important revelation ever given on earth. So where is it?

This isn't my Church right or wrong. This is my Church, God's true Church. What imperfections there are are insignificant. I don't throw out the bucket of popcorn, because there were a couple of unpopped kernels.

The question of authority isn't an insignificant imperfection, charity. Neither are the changes to canonized revelations.

[_harmony]

All religions are dangerous. They seek to destroy the intellect replacing it with dogma not derived from reason and evidence. Charity has given a wealth of examples demonstrating that far more voluminous than even your posts here (antishock8, RM, and ludwigm) can encompass. That’s not criticism of you but a compliment in as much as you have pointed to the same conclusion many times as you have address Charity’s remarks.

JAK

Oh get a grip. Absolute statements are worthless in a discussion. High falutin' rhetoric is equally useless. There is no "all" about anything.

People make up religions. Most people aren't at all dangerous. Most people are just trying to get through each day without doing something stupid enough to draw attention to themselves.

Good grief.

[_JAK]

All religions are dangerous. They seek to destroy the intellect replacing it with dogma not derived from reason and evidence. Charity has given a wealth of examples demonstrating that far more voluminous than even your posts here (antishock8, RM, and ludwigm) can encompass. That’s not criticism of you but a compliment in as much as you have pointed to the same conclusion many times as you have address Charity’s remarks.

JAK

Oh get a grip. Absolute statements are worthless in a discussion. High falutin' rhetoric is equally useless. There is no "all" about anything.

People make up religions. Most people aren't at all dangerous. Most people are just trying to get through each day without doing something stupid enough to draw attention to themselves.

Good grief.

harmony,

Indeed, religion is an invention of people.

harmony stated:
People make up religions. Most people aren't at all dangerous.

Correct. The issue and point is:

“Where reason and evidence are turned aside in favor of dogma and claim absent evidence, danger prevails.”

Truth by assertion is unreliable. Religions rely on truth by assertion.

The larger “Dangers of Religion” lie in flawed perceptions, misinformation, and fundamentalism which fosters fanaticism. So far in these discussions, no one has argued that “most people” are dangerous.

Some in the discussions have attempted to manufacture issues which were never advanced.

JAK