LDS doctrines/principles open to personal interpretation?

[_quaker]

Having a conscience and being accountable are two requisites, I think, for baptism, aren't they? With those reqs I think most of your questions are taken care of.

[_bcspace]

May I remain a member if I
- Pay 10% tithes on net-net?
- Drink beer?
- Drink coffee and tea?
- Wear garmies only during temple work?
- Opt out of temple work for the dead?
- Opt out of HT/VT?
- Think of Monson as only the president and not the prophet?

Doctrine comes only from the standard LDS canon? If so, then the above are free to be discussed and taught.

Incorrect. Doctrine and canon are two entirely different things in the LDS Church, the one being the official interpretation of the other. The Church has outlined this recently (but it is an old standard)....

Not every statement made by a Church leader, past or present, necessarily constitutes doctrine. A single statement made by a single leader on a single occasion often represents a personal, though well-considered, opinion, but is not meant to be officially binding for the whole Church. With divine inspiration, the First Presidency (the prophet and his two counselors) and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles (the second-highest governing body of the Church) counsel together to establish doctrine that is consistently proclaimed in official Church publications. This doctrine resides in the four “standard works” of scripture (the Holy Bible, the Book of Mormon, the Doctrine and Covenants and the Pearl of Great Price), official declarations and proclamations, and the Articles of Faith. Isolated statements are often taken out of context, leaving their original meaning distorted.

Approaching Mormon Doctrine, 4 May 2007

[_Boaz & Lidia]

May I remain a member if I
- Pay 10% tithes on net-net?
- Drink beer?
- Drink coffee and tea?
- Wear garmies only during temple work?
- Opt out of temple work for the dead?
- Opt out of HT/VT?
- Think of Monson as only the president and not the prophet?

Doctrine comes only from the standard LDS canon? If so, then the above are free to be discussed and taught.

Incorrect. Doctrine and canon are two entirely different things in the LDS Church, the one being the official interpretation of the other. The Church has outlined this recently (but it is an old standard)....

Not every statement made by a Church leader, past or present, necessarily constitutes doctrine. A single statement made by a single leader on a single occasion often represents a personal, though well-considered, opinion, but is not meant to be officially binding for the whole Church. With divine inspiration, the First Presidency (the prophet and his two counselors) and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles (the second-highest governing body of the Church) counsel together to establish doctrine that is consistently proclaimed in official Church publications. This doctrine resides in the four “standard works” of scripture (the Holy Bible, the Book of Mormon, the Doctrine and Covenants and the Pearl of Great Price), official declarations and proclamations, and the Articles of Faith. Isolated statements are often taken out of context, leaving their original meaning distorted.

Approaching Mormon Doctrine, 4 May 2007

Did the above statment "Approaching Mormon Doctrine" come through divine inspiration, via the First Presidency (the prophet and his two counselors) and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles?

Or is it just another person's personal opinion?

From that same non-canon website:

Based on the scriptures, Joseph Smith declared: “The fundamental principles of our religion are the testimony of the Apostles and Prophets, concerning Jesus Christ, that He died, was buried, and rose again the third day, and ascended into heaven; and all other things which pertain to our religion are only appendages to it.”

So then, if I believe in Jesus Christ, that He died, was buried, and rose again the third day, and ascended into heaven then I a free to

- Pay 10% tithes on net-net?
- Drink beer?
- Drink coffee and tea?
- Wear garmies only during temple work?
- Opt out of temple work for the dead?
- Opt out of HT/VT?
- Think of Monson as only the president and not the prophet?
- and not care who is or was a so called prophet?

[_harmony]

It helps if you also believe he is God.

[_Boaz & Lidia]

It helps if you also believe he is God.

Who? Jesus?

Are you saying that your belief is that Jesus and God are the same?

[_harmony]

It helps if you also believe he is God.

Who? Jesus?

Are you saying that your belief is that Jesus and God are the same?

Christ is God. So is Heavenly Father. So is the Holy Ghost.

You live. You'll die. You'll be buried. You'll be resurrected (not sure on what day). Christ did all that. Those things are not what make him God.

[_Boaz & Lidia]

It helps if you also believe he is God.

Who? Jesus?

Are you saying that your belief is that Jesus and God are the same?

Christ is God. So is Heavenly Father. So is the Holy Ghost.

You live. You'll die. You'll be buried. You'll be resurrected (not sure on what day). Christ did all that. Those things are not what make him God.

WTF? All three together are "god"?

So then, according to the fallacious first vision facade, did two gods appear to Smith? or was it god and his son?

[_sunstoned]

Which LDS doctrines and principles are open to personal inspiration/confirmation/revelation?

None of them are in the sense I think you are talking about. However, one may speculate and believe all one wants about details not given or described in doctrine as long as such does not contradict other doctrine and as long as you don't teach such for doctrine.

Thanks.

May I remain a member if I

- Pay 10% tithes on net-net?
- Drink beer?
- Drink coffee and tea?
- Wear garmies only during temple work?
- Opt out of temple work for the dead?
- Opt out of HT/VT?
- Think of Monson as only the president and not the prophet?

You could remain a member, but would not be able to get a TR. If I recall correctly, the interview specifically asks about drinking alcohol and wearing the temple garment "night and day". I also think the coffee and tea thing would be a deal breaker. The support of Monson as only the president is iffy and would depend on your Bishop.

[_harmony]

It helps if you also believe he is God.

Who? Jesus?

Are you saying that your belief is that Jesus and God are the same?

Christ is God. So is Heavenly Father. So is the Holy Ghost.

You live. You'll die. You'll be buried. You'll be resurrected (not sure on what day). Christ did all that. Those things are not what make him God.

WTF? All three together are "god"?

I said nothing about "together".

So then, according to the fallacious first vision facade, did two gods appear to Smith? or was it god and his son?

I suggest you ask Joseph when you get the chance.

[Guest]

Which LDS doctrines and principles are open to personal inspiration/confirmation/revelation?

None of them are in the sense I think you are talking about. However, one may speculate and believe all one wants about details not given or described in doctrine as long as such does not contradict other doctrine and as long as you don't teach such for doctrine.

Thanks.

May I remain a member if I

- Pay 10% tithes on net-net?
- Drink beer?
- Drink coffee and tea?
- Wear garmies only during temple work?
- Opt out of temple work for the dead?
- Opt out of HT/VT?
- Think of Monson as only the president and not the prophet?

You could remain a member, but would not be able to get a TR. If I recall correctly, the interview specifically asks about drinking alcohol and wearing the temple garment "night and day". I also think the coffee and tea thing would be a deal breaker. The support of Monson as only the president is iffy and would depend on your Bishop.

So then this blows a hole in the mopologist's BS about gaining a personal witness to principles and doctrine?