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_truth dancer
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"This principle will justly apply to all of God's dealings with His children. Everything that God gives us is lawful and right; and it is proper that we should enjoy His gifts and blessings whenever and wherever He is disposed to bestow; but if we should seize upon those same blessings and enjoyments without law, without revelation, without commandment, those blessings and enjoyments would prove cursings and vexations in the end, and we should have to lie down in sorrow and wailings of everlasting regret.


So, God's, "gifts and blessings" are to give a man various girls and women for a guy's enjoyment?

This is just sick.

So what if the "revelation" breaks the hearts of women, so what that it degrades women, so what that it denigrates and objectifies women. So what if it destroys marriages. So what if girls and teenagers are used and abused by older married men. So long as a man is enjoying God's "gifts and blessings" with God's approval who in the heck cares.

I tire of men blaming God for their hurtful and inappropriate sexual exploits and cruel behavior.

~dancer~
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Post by _TAK »

bcspace wrote:
Will, or any other TBM, if you were in a Bishopric or a Stake Presidency, and someone under your jurisdiction confessed to pre-marital sex, but said it was OK because they'd received a revelation from God that it was OK in that person's particular circumstances, would you be OK with that? How would you react?


I would ex them.


What if the spirit spoke to you that this person's actions were sanctioned by God??

Also, Would you defend his actions to your leaders?
_mentalgymnast

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Post by _mentalgymnast »

Sethbag wrote:I asked this question before, but not in a way that I could expect a direct answer to it. The Nancy Rigdon letter that John W. started made me think about this some more, and so now I'm asking it directly.

Will, or any other TBM, if you were in a Bishopric or a Stake Presidency, and someone under your jurisdiction confessed to pre-marital sex, but said it was OK because they'd received a revelation from God that it was OK in that person's particular circumstances, would you be OK with that? How would you react?


I'd check the handbook of instructions to leaders. I'll bet the answer is found there. Twenty some odd revisions of the handbook have been printed since the first one. The original handbook wouldn't have been any help. Thank goodness for further light and knowledge, huh? Line upon line, revision upon revision. If a Bishop had to rely only upon personal revelation and/or intuition there would be variances from situation to situation I would guess. The handbook sure makes things easier and more cut and dried.

Why the controversy?

Regards,
MG
_mentalgymnast

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Post by _mentalgymnast »

Sethbag wrote:I asked this question before, but not in a way that I could expect a direct answer to it. The Nancy Rigdon letter that John W. started made me think about this some more, and so now I'm asking it directly.

Will, or any other TBM, if you were in a Bishopric or a Stake Presidency, and someone under your jurisdiction confessed to pre-marital sex, but said it was OK because they'd received a revelation from God that it was OK in that person's particular circumstances, would you be OK with that? How would you react?


I'd check the handbook of instructions to leaders. I'll bet the answer is found there. Twenty some odd revisions of the handbook have been printed since the first one. The original handbook wouldn't have been any help. Thank goodness for further light and knowledge, huh? Line upon line, revision upon revision. If a Bishop had to rely only upon personal revelation and/or intuition there would be variances from situation to situation I would guess. The handbook sure makes things easier and more cut and dried.

Why the controversy?

Regards,
MG
_mentalgymnast

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Post by _mentalgymnast »

Sethbag wrote:I asked this question before, but not in a way that I could expect a direct answer to it. The Nancy Rigdon letter that John W. started made me think about this some more, and so now I'm asking it directly.

Will, or any other TBM, if you were in a Bishopric or a Stake Presidency, and someone under your jurisdiction confessed to pre-marital sex, but said it was OK because they'd received a revelation from God that it was OK in that person's particular circumstances, would you be OK with that? How would you react?


I'd check the handbook of instructions to leaders. I'll bet the answer is found there. Twenty some odd revisions of the handbook have been printed since the first one. The original handbook wouldn't have been any help. Thank goodness for further light and knowledge, huh? Line upon line, revision upon revision. If a Bishop had to rely only upon personal revelation and/or intuition there would be variances from situation to situation I would guess. The handbook sure makes things easier and more cut and dried.

Why the controversy?

Regards,
MG
_mentalgymnast

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Post by _mentalgymnast »

Sethbag wrote:I asked this question before, but not in a way that I could expect a direct answer to it. The Nancy Rigdon letter that John W. started made me think about this some more, and so now I'm asking it directly.

Will, or any other TBM, if you were in a Bishopric or a Stake Presidency, and someone under your jurisdiction confessed to pre-marital sex, but said it was OK because they'd received a revelation from God that it was OK in that person's particular circumstances, would you be OK with that? How would you react?


I'd check the handbook of instructions to leaders. I'll bet the answer is found there. Twenty some odd revisions of the handbook have been printed since the first one. The original handbook wouldn't have been any help. Thank goodness for further light and knowledge, huh? Line upon line, revision upon revision. If a Bishop had to rely only upon personal revelation and/or intuition there would be variances from situation to situation I would guess. The handbook sure makes things easier/more cut and dried.

Why the controversy?

Regards,
MG
_mentalgymnast

Re: for Will Schryver, or other TBMs

Post by _mentalgymnast »

Sethbag wrote:I asked this question before, but not in a way that I could expect a direct answer to it. The Nancy Rigdon letter that John W. started made me think about this some more, and so now I'm asking it directly.

Will, or any other TBM, if you were in a Bishopric or a Stake Presidency, and someone under your jurisdiction confessed to pre-marital sex, but said it was OK because they'd received a revelation from God that it was OK in that person's particular circumstances, would you be OK with that? How would you react?


I'd check the handbook of instructions to leaders. I'll bet the answer is found there. Twenty some odd revisions of the handbook have been printed since the first one. The original handbook wouldn't have been any help. Thank goodness for further light and knowledge, huh? Line upon line, revision upon revision. If a Bishop had to rely only upon personal revelation and/or intuition there would be variances from situation to situation I would guess. The handbook sure makes things easier/more cut and dried.

Why the controversy?

Regards,
MG
_mentalgymnast

Re: for Will Schryver, or other TBMs

Post by _mentalgymnast »

mentalgymnast wrote:
Sethbag wrote:I asked this question before, but not in a way that I could expect a direct answer to it. The Nancy Rigdon letter that John W. started made me think about this some more, and so now I'm asking it directly.

Will, or any other TBM, if you were in a Bishopric or a Stake Presidency, and someone under your jurisdiction confessed to pre-marital sex, but said it was OK because they'd received a revelation from God that it was OK in that person's particular circumstances, would you be OK with that? How would you react?


I'd check the handbook of instructions to leaders. I'll bet the answer is found there. Twenty some odd revisions of the handbook have been printed since the first one. The original handbook wouldn't have been any help. Thank goodness for further light and knowledge, huh? Line upon line, revision upon revision. If a Bishop had to rely only upon personal revelation and/or intuition there would be variances from situation to situation I would guess. The handbook sure makes things easier/more cut and dried.

Why the controversy?

Regards,
MG


Sorry about the repeats. I'm on an airport/wireless connection that apparently is acting really squirrly.

MG
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