The prophetic standard of living--a model for politics?

[_asbestosman]

I was just thinking about how many Americans have no or inadequate health insurance. In asking what should be done about it, many would ask WWJD. I ask, WWTSMD (What Would Thomas S. Monson Do)? Now obviously there will be limitations to this. For example, there probably are good reasons for President Monson to have bodyguards, but giving every person a bodyguard would be impossible (unless God wants to pay the wages of a bunch of guardian angels). But what of health insurance? Would the health insurance which general authorities enjoy be that which everyone should enjoy? If not, why not? Is it because they are more like corporate VPs than ordinary workers? Is it then immoral to own your own business if you can't get health care because of it (perhaps you or a dependant child has a pre-existing condition that means you can't buy insurance)?

[_moksha]

Jesus would want to feed the multitudes. You could extend this to health care. You pose an very interesting question in how Jesus may differ from Thomas Monson. Would his concern be less than the concern of Jesus due to a more conservative outlook or would he share the same care and concern for all regardless of the amount of gold, frankincense or myrrh a person could offer?

[_asbestosman]

While Jesus did feed the multitudes on occasion, He also declined doing it on occasion hoping instead to teach the multitudes something far more important (John 6:26-69).

I don't think that President Monson judges people based on the amount of wealth they have. I just think that even though life will always be unfair, yet perhaps we should make more strides not to be a respector of persons when it comes to health. I could care less if everyone has an automobile and a hot tub. I just think more should be done to offer health care for those who have pre-existing conditions or who otherwise can't get health care.

And no, I'm not saying this because of my own situation. I have excellent health insurance. I just feel bad for some people I know who aren't so lucky.

[_Scottie]

I've said before, that there are much easier ways to get rich than to be an apostle.

Is health insurance really needed when you have the healing power of the priesthood?

Shouldn't we believe that the prophet has the perfect faith necessary to call upon the power of God to heal himself? Or have 2 of the Qo12 perform a blessing?

With the combined faith there, I can't see any reason why a doctor would ever be needed.

[_Coggins7]

I was just thinking about how many Americans have no or inadequate health insurance. In asking what should be done about it, many would ask WWJD. I ask, WWTSMD (What Would Thomas S. Monson Do)? Now obviously there will be limitations to this. For example, there probably are good reasons for President Monson to have bodyguards, but giving every person a bodyguard would be impossible (unless God wants to pay the wages of a bunch of guardian angels). But what of health insurance? Would the health insurance which general authorities enjoy be that which everyone should enjoy? If not, why not? Is it because they are more like corporate VPs than ordinary workers? Is it then immoral to own your own business if you can't get health care because of it (perhaps you or a dependant child has a pre-existing condition that means you can't buy insurance)?

1. A very large contingent of the uninsured avoid insuring themselves due you youth, vigor, and a general sense that it isn't a priority in their lives at the present time. This is an economic decisions that will change as they marry, raise children, and head into old age.

2. Thomas Monson and corporate executives have nothing to do with anything. How would you provide health insurance to the uninsured (or, at least to those who desire it at any given point)?

[_Blixa]

Thomas Monson and corporate executives have nothing to do with anything.

*Because sometimes things just speak for themselves*

[_moksha]

And no, I'm not saying this because of my own situation. I have excellent health insurance. I just feel bad for some people I know who aren't so lucky.

But this is the true Christian position, to help others. The sick need healing. To deny health care access would be to deny help. I would assume based on the true Christian spirit, that Thomas Monson would embrace health care for all.

[_asbestosman]

2. Thomas Monson and corporate executives have nothing to do with anything. How would you provide health insurance to the uninsured (or, at least to those who desire it at any given point)?

It's a hard question for me. In general I prefer to keep the government out of my life. However, I find that healthcare doesn't quite work when left to the free market. While it may be the case that the majority of people are un(der)insured due to their own choice (something I am okay with because I believe in agency), it bothers me quite a bit that some people fairly close to me cannot buy private healthcare insurance for themselves or their children because of pre-existing conditions. At the very least I would propose that the government provide affordable healthcare insurance for those in that category.

[_asbestosman]

Thomas Monson and corporate executives have nothing to do with anything.

*Because sometimes things just speak for themselves*

Quite true. I just thought I might gain some leverage with other LDS by bringing up a prophetic standard of living. In the end, I suppose that this was foolish of me. I was just hoping it might help underscore that the prophet feels it's important enough for himself, so perhaps we should make it available to all (even if not completely free, at least affordable).

[_Boaz & Lidia]

Thomas Monson and corporate executives have nothing to do with anything.

*Because sometimes things just speak for themselves*

Quite true. I just thought I might gain some leverage with other LDS by bringing up a prophetic standard of living. In the end, I suppose that this was foolish of me. I was just hoping it might help underscore that the prophet feels it's important enough for himself, so perhaps we should make it available to all (even if not completely free, at least affordable).

Through the LDS welfare system, or worse, local callings?

"Brother Jones, we would like to extend a calling for you to accept, that being the calling of stake medical Doctor. Do you accept?"

LOL


by the way, with Tommy's type II Diabetes, where is the healing magic of the priesthood powers?

Most obese folks who have type II Diabetes is due to their slothful lifestyle.

So much for the magic of following the WoW, oh wait, carbohydrates and being obese were not included. G****** God! Was he drinking when he gave the WoW to Joe?

[Mod note: Edited swearing]