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_beastie
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Post by _beastie »

crocket -

do your ecclesiastic leaders know that you harass active members of the church on the internet, while those members try to work through challenges while still remaining active and retaining some form of belief?

by the way, this isn't a rhetorical question. I really want to know if they that you have ordained yourself some sort of "judge" in internet israel, and actively harass members you judge unworthy.

I also want to see where you harass believers (who are 'worthy') for saying anonymous malicious things about exmormons.
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Post by _Yoda »

Brackite and Bob---

In order to keep continuity on the Dynastic Marriage thread in the Celestial Forum, would you guys mind reposting your comments on that thread? As the thread originator, I would really appreciate it.

MINUS any snippy comments.


Thanks, guys!

Liz
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Post by _Runtu »

You and John W should resign; show the character of your convictions.


Tell you what, Bob. You and I can resign together. K? But then I find it much easier to destroy testimonies from within the church. Every week I look to plant the seeds of apostasy in the high priests who are sleeping next to me. ;)
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Post by _rcrocket »

Brackite wrote:And the only reason Zina and Henry were split apart was because in June 1846 BY sent Henry on a mission to England when Henry was halfway across Iowa (in Mt. Pisgah), driving a covered wagon with Zina and their two sons, one a newborn. After Henry left, Zina and the boys eventually made it Winter Quarters, where she began to live openly as BY's wife. It is likely Henry had no idea this was going on. It was only when Henry had arrived in New York in August 1847, on his return trip from the mission, that Henry was read a letter from Zina to her sister-in-law stating that Zina now considered herself married to BY, and not Henry. (Source: Todd Compton, In Sacred Loneliness, pages 83-92).


This is a very superficial analysis and a reading of my post. Compton admits that he has no documentary proof of this letter from Zina. A point I made in my post. You just blow past that and post the excerpt from Compton which omits Compton's admission.

Evidence, evidence, evidence -- not speculation.
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Post by _rcrocket »

beastie wrote:crocket -

do your ecclesiastic leaders know that you harass active members of the church on the internet, while those members try to work through challenges while still remaining active and retaining some form of belief?

by the way, this isn't a rhetorical question. I really want to know if they that you have ordained yourself some sort of "judge" in internet israel, and actively harass members you judge unworthy.

I also want to see where you harass believers (who are 'worthy') for saying anonymous malicious things about exmormons.


I do not understand your post. I pray that your heart will be softened and that you will quit stalking me.

Bob
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Post by _Yoda »

rcrocket wrote:
beastie wrote:crocket -

do your ecclesiastic leaders know that you harass active members of the church on the internet, while those members try to work through challenges while still remaining active and retaining some form of belief?

by the way, this isn't a rhetorical question. I really want to know if they that you have ordained yourself some sort of "judge" in internet israel, and actively harass members you judge unworthy.

I also want to see where you harass believers (who are 'worthy') for saying anonymous malicious things about exmormons.


I do not understand your post. I pray that your heart will be softened and that you will quit stalking me.

Bob


How is Beastie stalking you by asking you a question? Are you saying that Beastie is stalking you outside of this forum?
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Post by _the road to hana »

liz3564 wrote:
rcrocket wrote:
beastie wrote:crocket -

do your ecclesiastic leaders know that you harass active members of the church on the internet, while those members try to work through challenges while still remaining active and retaining some form of belief?

by the way, this isn't a rhetorical question. I really want to know if they that you have ordained yourself some sort of "judge" in internet israel, and actively harass members you judge unworthy.

I also want to see where you harass believers (who are 'worthy') for saying anonymous malicious things about exmormons.


I do not understand your post. I pray that your heart will be softened and that you will quit stalking me.

Bob


How is Beastie stalking you by asking you a question? Are you saying that Beastie is stalking you outside of this forum?


It's more than a little tiresome that Bob continues to accuse people of stalking him. He's done it with beastie; he's done it with me. Yet he's essentially doing the same thing by following people around on this message board harassing them for posting anonymously.
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Post by _guy sajer »

Jason Bourne wrote:
I just don't think you are deeply read enough to carry on this dialogue. Again, I have problems with your post; coming out openly and publicly against the doctrines and teachings of the church. Not willing to read the sources before openly embarrassing the Church. See the church's position on Peter Danzig at http://newsroom.LDS.org/ldsnewsroom/eng ... -the-flock. At least he had the courage to not be anonymous. You and John W should resign; show the character of your convictions.


Not withstanding your condescension I am actually quite well read on this topic. Well enough to know your spin is exactly that. Henry entered into plural marriage based on the idea that what was good for the goose was good enough for him. Brigham had already claimed Zina for his own before Henry went on this mission. Henry took a wife perhaps in a moment of hoping for revenge. Goodness knows the poor fellow had been a dupe to Joesph and Brigham over this issue. I am sure when he learned his wife had moved in with Brigham it broke his heart. It is sad indeed that you are to hard to consider that just perhaps Henry was a victim here.

As for your problems with my post I do not really care. I have a problem with a alleged bishop encouraging people to resign membership. Your whining is boring, a one note song. Do you treat your flock this shabbily? I imagine that most of your flock fears you.

As for my complaints about polyandry and my allegedly coming out openly against the church and its doctrines please show me where this it is required to believe that this activity was and is doctrine.

As for your suggestion I should resign, since this is the celestial forum I will refrain from telling you what part of my body you can kiss.


I assume you aren't referring to your full, lascivious lips.
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Post by _rcrocket »

the road to hana wrote:
It's more than a little tiresome that Bob continues to accuse people of stalking him. He's done it with beastie; he's done it with me. Yet he's essentially doing the same thing by following people around on this message board harassing them for posting anonymously.


You're wonderful. I pray for you.
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Post by _Yoda »

Guy wrote:
Jason wrote:As for your suggestion I should resign, since this is the celestial forum I will refrain from telling you what part of my body you can kiss.




I assume you aren't referring to your full, lascivious lips.


LOL! I very much doubt it!
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