For those who attended BYU

[_Inconceivable]

The only thing that is more likely is that one would stay a virgin at BYU - .

Yeah, then here's a an interesting statistic:


BYU has the highest pregnancy rate per capita than any University in the United States.



???

:)

[_TAK]

I attended YBU for one year fresh off my mission and enjoyed the status of fresh RM meat..
That said, I felt I was in a Disneyland of sorts and wanted a broader educational experience. I am glad I left and personally glad that school is not on my resume.

[Guest]

For those who went to BYU and ended up a "critic," do you think that your BYU experience was a contributing force, or would it have happened regardless of university?

If it was the BYU experience, to what do you attribute it to exactly? Was it the culture? Was it being amongst a high populous of LDS? Was it (*gasp*) that the education at BYU was highly effective at providing you critical thinking stills (or not good enough I guess from a “believer’s” POV)?

BYU contributed to the person I am today, for better or worse.

My departure from the church of my childhood probably would have happened eventually regardless, but I'd attribute the following aspects of BYU as contributing factors:

1) Professors who inspired me to think for myself and pointed me in directions I might not have gone otherwise.

2) Access to insider information I might not have had otherwise.

3) Exposure to a culture (Utah County) that was predominantly Mormon.

4) Increased insight into Mormonism being a dot in an expansive universe historically, culturally, geographically and theologically.

Liberal professors who drank Dr. Pepper, though. That was probably what done me in. And hanging out with thinksters in the Cougareat.

[_John Larsen]

I attended YBU for one year fresh off my mission and enjoyed the status of fresh RM meat..
That said, I felt I was in a Disneyland of sorts and wanted a broader educational experience. I am glad I left and personally glad that school is not on my resume.

I am satisfied that I received a good education, but having BYU on my resume has been a negative at least once that I know of, and probably more often.

[_silentkid]

For those who went to BYU and ended up a "critic," do you think that your BYU experience was a contributing force, or would it have happened regardless of university?

If it was the BYU experience, to what do you attribute it to exactly? Was it the culture? Was it being amongst a high populous of LDS? Was it (*gasp*) that the education at BYU was highly effective at providing you critical thinking stills (or not good enough I guess from a “believer’s” POV)?

You beat me to my follow-up question. Here's my answer:

As an undergrad at BYU, I remained a believer. I didn't like the "culture of Mormonism" (I grew up in Northern California and hadn't experienced that culture in its fullness), but I retained my faith. None of my undergraduate religion classes delved into the issues that are so common on boards like this.

As a grad student at BYU, I experienced a paradigm shift. I think it was mostly related to my field of study (evolution and genetics). I TA'd for a professor who helped answer my questions and direct me to books and articles that addressed many of the issues I was having with church history. Yes, my time at BYU was a big part of my non-believer status today.

The part I bolded: I completely agree with it.

[_Yoda]

My mom said she didn't want me to go to the University of Utah because I'd become an apostate. So I went to BYU and became an apostate. Go Cougars!

LOL! You and I were at BYU at the same time. So close and yet so far. Pity.

;)

I do remember feeling some apostate vibe coming from one of the girls' dorms at DT that fall. Which one were you in? ;)

Hmmm. If Liz was there when you were there, maybe I was there.

When were you there, Liz (you can PM if it's too much in real life information)?

Runtu---I was in S Hall, 2nd floor. Which hall were you in?

;)

Skippy--I attended BYU from 1982-1984. I went to school at Yuba College in California from 1984-1986 and then returned to BYU from 1986-1988, graduating in '88. (Yes, it took me six years to complete a four year degree...it was Music...all of those 1/2 credit courses....give me a break! LOL)

[_Boaz & Lidia]

The only thing that is more likely is that one would stay a virgin at BYU - .

Yeah, then here's a an interesting statistic:


BYU has the highest pregnancy rate per capita than any University in the United States.



???

:)

Serious?

That would be a great dart to throw at the Mormon defenders.

Then again they might say it is due to more abortions at the other schools...

[_Sethbag]

Having the highest pregnancy rate is entirely understandable given the emphasis on getting married as soon after returning from a mission as possible. Since believers can't have sex till marriage, there's also that impetus. So you get hundreds if not thousands of students at BYU marrying and starting to have kids immediately. The situation is I think different than at any other school I can imagine. Other than it probably being kind of dumb for all those students to marry and have two or three kids before they're done with school, I don't think that particular statistic reflects badly on BYU. I'm sure that BYU's rate for unwed pregnancies is next to last in the nation. Even if a female student at BYU were to get pregnant out of wedlock, you can be sure she won't be a student by the time she actually gives birth.

[_Boaz & Lidia]

Having the highest pregnancy rate is entirely understandable given the emphasis on getting married as soon after returning from a mission as possible. Since believers can't have sex till marriage, there's also that impetus. So you get hundreds if not thousands of students at BYU marrying and starting to have kids immediately. The situation is I think different than at any other school I can imagine. Other than it probably being kind of dumb for all those students to marry and have two or three kids before they're done with school, I don't think that particular statistic reflects badly on BYU. I'm sure that BYU's rate for unwed pregnancies is next to last in the nation. Even if a female student at BYU were to get pregnant out of wedlock, you can be sure she won't be a student by the time she actually gives birth.

True, I mistook it for out of wedlock pregnancies.

One statistic I am sure they are #1 in is dry humping, a.k.a. Levi lovin. We used to say Levi Strauss was the #1 maker of Mormon dating condoms!

[_Gadianton]

Or as I used to refer to it, practicing the Levitical Priesthood.