SatanWasSetUp wrote: The more seasoned apologists wisely ignore this as coincidence.
Perhaps he needs a little more thyme.
cdowis wrote:The idea that cement was used in ancient America was also laughable a few decades ago. This whole sheum thing must have you rolling on the floor.
Antimormon technique # 27: "I am unable to give a cogent response, so I will respond with mockery. Or I can remind them that there have been no horses found in mesoamerica. That always seems to work when I am short of answers."
What part of my post is so humerous ==>> Arabs inhabited Madagascar? That Lehi had evidence of Arabic culture? That the Mormons are able to actually give you an answer?
Please be very specific.
And while you are laughing, you might also jump on the thread regarding Greek names in the Book of Mormon. I look forward to your response there.
Greek names are in the Book of Mormon? (hahahahahaha)
Lehi and Nephi wrote in EGYPTIAN???!!!!!!! Hebrew and Egyptian??? (BWAH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA) (hysterical with laughter, gasping for air)
PS I really went over the top. But with over ten years talking to the antis, sometimes I just can't help it.
Chris Smith wrote:Charles,
I have a difficult time understanding why you feel you have to posit so extraordinary a chain of events to somehow causally link Moroni/Comoros with Moroni/Cumorah. And what you've posited is an extraordinary chain of events, regardless of what you may think. It crosses at least 4 cultures, several centuries, and thousands of miles. There are several missing links, including why there exists the inherent linkage you posit between the two names and where in the "Arabic culture" these names are found. In short, your post constitutes some of the wildest speculation I've seen in a long time, and the only reason I can possibly think of to explain why you think such speculation is necessary is that you don't believe in coincidences. Your belief in the Book of Mormon is so entirely built on coincidences that you feel the need to impute meaning to completely random and meaningless parallels even when they don't support your views.
-Chris
QUOTE(Nevo @ Feb 28 2008, 09:27 AM) "Barley" does appear actually: "And we began to till the ground, yea, even with all manner of seeds, with seeds of corn, and of wheat, and of barley, and with neas, and with sheum, and with seeds of all manner of fruits; and we did begin to multiply and prosper in the land." (Mosiah 9:9)
So apparently the Nephites tilled the ground with barley and corn and wheat and barley and lots of other seeds..
Dr. Steuss I think sheum was probably a nut or legume.
The Dude wrote:If you (cdowis) want to say Cumorah in the Book of Mormon is causally linked to Comoros in the Indian ocean, then fine. If you want to say that Moroni in the Book of Mormon is causally linked to Moroni in the Indian ocean, well, that's fine too. I think it's a tremendous stretch but you aren't doing anything you haven't done a hundred other times by cherry picking lingistic similarities and calling them hits.
But if you want to say the pairing of Cumorah (the Hill) and Moroni (the angel who haunted that hill) is causally linked to the pairing of Comoros (the island) and Moroni (the capital of the island), then you better have a whole lot more to say than "Arabic culture". There's a far better case in saying that it's just a coincidence and I'm conservatively and charitably suggesting we go there.
Otherwise, there's the old critic's case of saying Joseph Smith saw the names paired on a map or heard them paired in a story about pirates, and he transposed them into his story. That, at least explains the pairing. "Arabic culture" does not.
KimberlyAnn wrote:They've made photos from LOL Cats into Mormon satire. I couldn't stop laughing at some of those posts, seriously.