DCP Revises His Comments on Quinn's Apostasy

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liz3564 wrote:Interesting, Scratch. This quote is particularly disturbing to me:

Dr. Peterson wrote:Mike Quinn chose not to attend the church disciplinary council that excommunicated him, and, as mentioned previously, the Church never publicly states its reasons for discipline.


If the contents of the disciplinary hearing are supposed to be kept confidential, why is he publicly stating whether or not Mike Quinn attended?


Yes, Liz. The larger question (to my mind) is: "If the contents of the disciplinary hearing are supposed to be kept confidential, why is he (DCP) sating whether or not Quinn attended, and, further, why is he telling TBMs on MAD/FAIR that Quinn was ex'ed for homosexuality???"

The fact of the matter is that DCP dug himself into a real morass with his gossipmongering and smear tactics, and the postings from him that I cited above are just more evidence in favor of this view. The Good Professor is being more careful with his Quinn-related smears these days, it seems.
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Mister Scratch wrote:
Yes, Liz. The larger question (to my mind) is: "If the contents of the disciplinary hearing are supposed to be kept confidential, why is he (DCP) sating whether or not Quinn attended, and, further, why is he telling TBMs on MAD/FAIR that Quinn was ex'ed for homosexuality???"



Well, the tricky thing is, he hasn't actually come out and said it. He has inferred it on multiple occasions. He has certainly stated flat-out that Quinn was excommunicated primarily for reasons other than his writings. And, he has also openly talked about the fact that Quinn was "out" as far as his homosexual lifestyle was concerned.

I don't think that you can find a quote where he has, precisely said, "Quinn was excommunicated for homosexuality."

He's covering his ass with the Church in that way.

However, he's skating on the thinnest ice he can possibly get away with.
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liz3564 wrote:However, he's [DCP] skating on the thinnest ice he can possibly get away with.


(my brackets added.)

Now I could make a joke at this point...but then DCP would then proceed to stake me out on the MADB and attempt to blindside me like he usually does.
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Even more disturbing is why Mr. Peterson would insinuate that there may or may not be additional reasons for Mr. Quinn's excommunication. That's nefarious, and for many a Believer that's carte blanche to assume the worse.
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Bond...James Bond wrote:
liz3564 wrote:However, he's [DCP] skating on the thinnest ice he can possibly get away with.


(my brackets added.)

Now I could make a joke at this point...but then DCP would then proceed to stake me out on the MADB and attempt to blindside me like he usually does.


Why do you bother with Slytherin when you live at Gryffindor?

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liz3564 wrote:Well, the tricky thing is, he hasn't actually come out and said it. He has inferred it on multiple occasions.


Technically, you're right. Here, for example, is one of those "technicalities":

Daniel Peterson wrote:
gitxsanartist wrote: Why did he get excommunicated?

I can't speak for certain, as I wasn't present during the disciplinary council that considered his case. (Nor was he, for that matter.) But I have it from a reliable source that his stake president was aware of his actively homosexual lifestyle.
(bold emphasis added)

I think it's important to note the use of the phrase "actively homosexual lifestyle." Now, based on what we know both from Quinn himself, and from "character witnesses" such as Don Bradley, this is a completely brazen falsehood on DCP's part. It is very reminiscent of the same tactics which were used in the battle against Robert Ritner.

He has certainly stated flat-out that Quinn was excommunicated primarily for reasons other than his writings. And, he has also openly talked about the fact that Quinn was "out" as far as his homosexual lifestyle was concerned.

I don't think that you can find a quote where he has, precisely said, "Quinn was excommunicated for homosexuality."

He's covering his ass with the Church in that way.

However, he's skating on the thinnest ice he can possibly get away with.


Yes, I agree. The thing is, DCP has frequently insinuated that the homosexuality was the reason. The Good Professor has *never* listed any other possibility, and, in the end, is it even possible to imagine some other reason for the ex'ing? So far as I'm aware, there are really only three possible reasons why Quinn was ex'ed:
1. His historical writings
2. Homosexual activity
3. Insubordination

Reason No. 1 is the reason most frequently cited by Quinn himself, and by people who are personally acquainted with the man. Reason No. 3 is the one offered up by Lavina Fielding Anderson's analysis of Quinn's ex'ing.

The source of Reason No. 2 is---and has always been---DCP. The Good Professor is the stinky fount from whence this false rumor came. Yes; DCP can perhaps claim that Quinn's sexual orientation was "widely known" (a highly questionable assertion), but his suggestion that sexual orientation was behind the Church court is mendacious, cheap, irresponsible, and malicious.

Antishock8 is right: Prof. P. is basically trying to give TBMs carte blanche to assume the worst.
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