some similar hand actions in the course of the rituals (the LDS versions having distinct parallels to ancient Israelite temple worship and early Christian usage).
after reading Bill Hamblin's thread on Barker and Freemasonry (can't quite understand why he chose to mention both in one thread....I'm sure he has his reasons) and decided to do some digging on both!.
Does anyone know of the connections between the 'hand' actions in the rituals in the temple and ancient Israelite parallels?
It's not something that I have ever heard of. I don't recall reading anything to do with it in either the new or old testament? (King James Version)
some similar hand actions in the course of the rituals (the LDS versions having distinct parallels to ancient Israelite temple worship and early Christian usage).
after reading Bill Hamblin's thread on Barker and Freemasonry (can't quite understand why he chose to mention both in one thread....I'm sure he has his reasons) and decided to do some digging on both!.
Does anyone know of the connections between the 'hand' actions in the rituals in the temple and ancient Israelite parallels?
It's not something that I have ever heard of. I don't recall reading anything to do with it in either the new or old testament? (King James Version)
Mary
The building block of the FAIR kingdom. Pure plausibly patent BS. Just like them using generic words from the Bible like "garment" to show proof that the "temple garments" have been in use since the time of Adam.
I have actually met Mormons who did not know or had been deprogrammed to forgetting that, the word garment just means clothing.
Imwashingmypirate wrote:I always thought the garments in the Bible were just clothing rather than anything special.
Perhaps because folks from across the pond use that word more than Americans? (guessing)
Here in the states, more specifically Utah, you almost never heard the word garment unless it was preceded with temple, so it was an easy brain washing job of sorts to pull up a the few references of the word garment in the Bible.
Yesterday I watched an excellent History Channel special on Freemasonry.
Here is how they explained the handshakes.
There were three levels of stonemansons, (apprentice, master, something else), and a different handshake (exactly like the ones in the temple), given to each level.
Because masons were able to travel freely (evidently unlike other tradesmen), they could go from site to site to work. When they happened upon a site they would shake hands with their secret handshake to let the master stone masons know they were indeed reputable masons, and at what level they were able to work.
The idea that others during a time when they could not read or write used various similar methods or symbols of identification such as this doesn't seem unlikely.
What is a stretch, in my opinion, is that this system of secret handshakes developed by stone masons to verify their training is actually the same exact one used by angels in the CK.
~dancer~
"The search for reality is the most dangerous of all undertakings for it destroys the world in which you live." Nisargadatta Maharaj
[MODERATOR NOTE: Thread moved by Dr. Shades because of a Terrestrial "feel" to it. Mild temple references, mild ridicule, etc.]
"Finally, for your rather strange idea that miracles are somehow linked to the amount of gay sexual gratification that is taking place would require that primitive Christianity was launched by gay sex, would it not?"
Yes, I find it mindboggling that people actually believe that there will be angels placed in some location where they will be able to test a person's knowledge of some secret handshakes and passwords, and if the person doesn't know the handshakes or passwords, they won't be allowed into heaven. That's just bizarre.
And that's one more thing traditional Christians find so "un-Christian" about Mormons. Traditional Christians believe that all that's required of one to get into Heaven is acknowledgment of Jesus Christ. Not knowing some secret handshakes and passwords.
The whole secret handshakes and passwords thing contributes to some people calling Mormonism a "cult". You have to admit, the handshakes thing comes across very cultish unless you're already steeped in Mormonism. It's just downright bizarre.
Mormonism ceased being a compelling topic for me when I finally came to terms with its transformation from a personality cult into a combination of a real estate company, a SuperPac, and Westboro Baptist Church. - Kishkumen
If I recall correctly, I have heard that the teaching that devotees pass by sentinels who ask for the required tokens and passwords is not being taught too much these days?
Is the church letting this go?
Where does the church stand on this particular teaching these days?
~dancer~
Shades, sorry that I created a need to move the thread. I was trying to abide by the CK commands but guess I didn't. :-)
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"The search for reality is the most dangerous of all undertakings for it destroys the world in which you live." Nisargadatta Maharaj
truth dancer wrote:If I recall correctly, I have heard that the teaching that devotees pass by sentinels who ask for the required tokens and passwords is not being taught too much these days?
Is the church letting this go?
Where does the church stand on this particular teaching these days?
~dancer~
Shades, sorry that I created a need to move the thread. I was trying to abide by the CK commands but guess I didn't. :-)
truth dancer wrote:Shades, sorry that I created a need to move the thread. I was trying to abide by the CK commands but guess I didn't. :-)
It wasn't just you, so no cause for concern.
"Finally, for your rather strange idea that miracles are somehow linked to the amount of gay sexual gratification that is taking place would require that primitive Christianity was launched by gay sex, would it not?"