Book of Mormon Chapter Headings Have Changed

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moksha wrote: How could the most correct book be the most correct book if you left the mistakes in?


Excellent point!
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It seems that this issue has been a staggering blow for the Mopologists. Get a load of "Scotty Dog" Lloyd's over-the-top eruption in this recent MAD posting:

S. Lloyd wrote:This "corrections to the Book of Mormon" thing is a real red herring. It might even rank there with "adieu" and "Jerusalem, the land of our fathers" as one of the stupidest anti-Mormon attacks in existence.


Gee whiz, Scotty-dog! Take a chill pill or something! No need to get so bent out of shape over this!
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asbestosman wrote:...This is according to the account of Nephi; or in other words, I, Nephi, wrote this record.


It's sentences like this that stick out when you read the Book of Mormon with a critical eye (as I did the last time i read the Book of Mormon). Just sounds so fishy to me. Nephi supposedly carved those words into the plates? come on! OTOH, i could totally see Joseph Smith saying something like that as he's talking out of his butt doing the dictation.
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My memory might be failing me (big surprise) but I seem to recall a certain apologetic argument that was something about the "skin of blackness" referring to an animal skin worn by the Lamanites, not the actual skin color of the Lamanites. Does that ring a bell with anyone, or am I smoking crack again? The reason I bring it up is if that argument had any truth to it, why change the "skin of blackness" statement in the chapter header.
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asbestosman wrote:
The Nehor wrote:I think you mean correcting the commentary added to the most correct book or were you all such 'crappy members' that you don't know which parts of the Book of Mormon claim to come from the plates and which don't?


Nehor, long time no see!

Some of the headings actually weer on the plates, but not the chapter headings as I recall. For example, it is my understanding that Nephi wrote:
An account of Lehi and his wife Sariah and his four sons, being called, (beginning at the eldest) Laman, Lemuel, Sam, and Nephi. The Lord warns Lehi to depart out of the land of Jerusalem, because he prophesieth unto the people concerning their iniquity and they seek to destroy his life. He taketh three days’ journey into the wilderness with his family. Nephi taketh his brethren and returneth to the land of Jerusalem after the record of the Jews. The account of their sufferings. They take the daughters of Ishmael to wife. They take their families and depart into the wilderness. Their sufferings and afflictions in the wilderness. The course of their travels. They come to the large waters. Nephi’s brethren rebel against him. He confoundeth them, and buildeth a ship. They call the name of the place Bountiful. They cross the large waters into the promised land, and so forth. This is according to the account of Nephi; or in other words, I, Nephi, wrote this record.

I could be mistaken though. It may simply be the case that Joseph Smith added some of these headers to the first printing of the Book of Mormon.


The headings for the books were from the plates, the chapter headings are not.
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Who Knows wrote:
asbestosman wrote:...This is according to the account of Nephi; or in other words, I, Nephi, wrote this record.


It's sentences like this that stick out when you read the Book of Mormon with a critical eye (as I did the last time I read the Book of Mormon). Just sounds so fishy to me. Nephi supposedly carved those words into the plates? come on! OTOH, I could totally see Joseph Smith saying something like that as he's talking out of his butt doing the dictation.


Or perhaps Joseph couldn't translate it well so gave two readings of it to clarify.
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Who Knows wrote:
asbestosman wrote:...This is according to the account of Nephi; or in other words, I, Nephi, wrote this record.


It's sentences like this that stick out when you read the Book of Mormon with a critical eye (as I did the last time I read the Book of Mormon). Just sounds so fishy to me. Nephi supposedly carved those words into the plates? come on! OTOH, I could totally see Joseph Smith saying something like that as he's talking out of his butt doing the dictation.


Yeah, there's a lot of that in the Book of Mormon where it sounds like someone making it up as he goes along. Just go to LDS.org and search for "or rather" in the Book of Mormon. That is just one phrase he used to correct himself. Sometimes he completely changes his mind in mid sentence like "Then Nephi had sex with his wife, or rather he did not have sex with his wife but instead went fishing." That isn't an exact example, but it's the type of thing you see, and it makes you scratch your head.
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Roger Morrison wrote:Thanks Brackite, tried the URL but couldn't get it?? Anyway, most interesting and indicitive of survival-at-all-costs. What might bode from this? Over time eradicating the word "Mormon" as an identifying name of the group?? After all "Mormons" is/was a dirty-name initially imposed by the enemy.

Certainly LDSism could then--after acknowledging Joseph as a well meaning, delusional--take its place among sectarianism as no worse than any other. Even better than some. Then they w/could be accepted as Christians, then>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who knows?? Of course shortly it won't matter, Jesus will come-again, the sheep will be seperated from the goats and>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Evolution or what, eh? Warm regards, Roger (Not to be taken seriously :-)



Hi Roger,

You have to Copy and Paste the URL Address to the address line of the browser! It will then work.
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Post by _Brackite »

Here is another Post, in Page #4 of that Discussion Thread, about more of the recent Chapter Heading Changes from the Book of Mormon, in the Doubleday edition of the Book of Mormon:


Moroni 8 - Old Heading
Infant baptism
Moroni 8 - New Heading
The baptism of little children


Ether 12 - Old Heading
The Lord gives men weaknesses that they may be humble
Ether 12 - New Heading
The Lord gives men weakness that they may be humble


Mosiah 28 - Old Heading
The sons of Mosiah shall have eternal life—They go to preach to the Lamanites—Mosiah translates the Jaredite plates with the two seer stones
Mosiah 28 - New Heading
The sons of Mosiah go to preach to the Lamanites—Using the two seer stones, Mosiah translates the Jaredite plates


Here is the URL Address to Page #4, of that Discussion Thread:

http://www.mormonapologetics.org/index. ... 3562&st=60
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Post by _Boaz & Lidia »

In the future there will be members who joined using the Double-speak, err Double-day edition of the Book of Mormon.

When they realize the changes that have been made, the world will have another pissed off exmormon.
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