Temple 'Hand' actions and parallels to ancient practice?

[_Boaz & Lidia]

Shades, sorry that I created a need to move the thread. I was trying to abide by the CK commands but guess I didn't. :-)

It wasn't just you, so no cause for concern.

It is impossible to have any discussion about the temple without going into the so called sacred secrets.

Additionally, it is nearly impossible for me to not ridicule it.

[_Dr. Shades]

It is impossible to have any discussion about the temple without going into the so called sacred secret. Additionally, it is nearly impossible for me to not ridicule it.

If that's the case, then please just start a new thread in the Terrestrial or Telestial Forums (as appropriate), copying-&-pasting out of the Celestial Thread as necessary and then making whatever comments you wish to make.

That way there'll be less moderatorial clean-up required in the Celestial Forum. Thanks!

[_Chap]

Funnily enough, the Jews are the people to ask about what went on in the Jerusalem temple. While the temple itself was destroyed in 70 CE, the rituals performed in it had already been recorded in immense detail, and continued to be discussed for the next two millennia. The Jews could no more forget the temple ritual than Catholics could forget the mass, assuming that a body of literate and scholarly Catholics continued to exist.

Several web resources have been set up by those who plan a 'Restoration' of the full temple ritual on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, based on the rabbinic accounts in the Talmud. Here is one:


http://www.templeinstitute.org/main.htm

If you want to see depictions of the actions of the priests during temple rituals, have a look at this:

http://www.templeinstitute.org/day_in_life/foreword.htm

The resemblance to LDS temple rituals is just about zero. You have to look to Freemasonry for the sources of what goes on there.

[_Mercury]

Don't know if this has been said but I often heard the apologetic nonsense whispered on my mission that the many buhdist and hindu statues showing poses the dupe missionaries believed were similar to temple signs were evidence that the temple is a restoration of the tainted adamic knowledge that has been corrupted and disseminated throughout culture.

This arrogant and childish assumption that Mormonism is reflected in everything they can point at and see passing similarity with is the height of conceit.

[_Boaz & Lidia]

It is impossible to have any discussion about the temple without going into the so called sacred secret. Additionally, it is nearly impossible for me to not ridicule it.

If that's the case, then please just start a new thread in the Terrestrial or Telestial Forums (as appropriate), copying-&-pasting out of the Celestial Thread as necessary and then making whatever comments you wish to make.

That way there'll be less moderatorial clean-up required in the Celestial Forum. Thanks!

Were any of my comments up to your mod-move non celestial?

Is Celestial only for believers? I typically stay out, but lately that where charity likes to hide.

Perhaps we should have a new forum called the MA&D House and all exchanges must emulate those of the board from which it gets it's name?

[_Mary]

some similar hand actions in the course of the rituals (the LDS versions having distinct parallels to ancient Israelite temple worship and early Christian usage

Shades, I got the information from FAIR wiki...hopefully I am not crossing any lines here.
Chap, thanks for the references. So, like everyone else on the thread, I am left with the impression that the above quote is infact incorrect and misleading. There are no ancient parallels in terms of the 'hand' actions. There are similarities to masonic rites but that's it. To argue that the 'hand' actions were ancient, one would have to find a definitive link between masons and Solomon's temple??

Did Barker bring up anything with regard to this? I can't find anything at all...

Mary

[_Dr. Shades]

Were any of my comments up to your mod-move non celestial?

Technically yes. See:

"The building block of the FAIR kingdom. Pure plausibly patent BS."

"Here in the states, more specifically Utah, you almost never heard the word garment unless it was preceded with temple, so it was an easy brain washing job of sorts to pull up a the few references of the word garment in the Bible."

For the Celestial Forum, it would've been better to rephrase to something like, "intentional or unintentional falsehood" and "conditioning exercise of sorts."

Is Celestial only for believers?

Nope, not by any means.

I typically stay out, but lately that where charity likes to hide.

Participate there as much as you like, but always speak as though you were conversing with your beloved grandmother.

Perhaps we should have a new forum called the MA&D House and all exchanges must emulate those of the board from which it gets it's name?

Nah. The fewer forums, the better.

[_Yoda]

Is Celestial only for believers?

No, the Celestial Forum is NOT only for believers. The Celestial Forum is, however, reserved for POLITE, SCHOLARLY discussion. And, G-Rated discussion, at that.

As Shades has addressed many times, the amount of rancor that should exist in the Celestial Forum is what should equate when you are arguing with your favorite grandmother. ;)

Edited to add---Looks like Shades and I were posting at the same time. Great minds! LOL

[_harmony]

some similar hand actions in the course of the rituals (the LDS versions having distinct parallels to ancient Israelite temple worship and early Christian usage

Shades, I got the information from FAIR wiki...hopefully I am not crossing any lines here.
Chap, thanks for the references. So, like everyone else on the thread, I am left with the impression that the above quote is infact incorrect and misleading.

Well, there's a newsflash! FAIR wiki is misleading and incorrect. Who woulda thunk it?

You nailed it, Miss Taken!