Who owns the land, Jason?

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_Mercury
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Who owns the land, Jason?

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This is not a personal attack. If it were, you would know it.

Jason, a question. You often talk of the supposed financial transparency and great leway the stake or ward has in Financial matters. Why is it then that Salt Lake owns the land on which church buildings sit?

A corporation fits the model better than a religion in this matter. Centralization of asset ownership is not something a viable religious organization should promote. Why is it not that the stake and ward own the property? This would fit a more distributed model that you try to promote.

What spurred this question is an interesting news snippet:


Delays in negotiations with Mormon Church lead city to see property’s condemnation
By Anna Mathews, Carroll County News

BERRYVILLE — Condemnation proceedings are underway to begin work on a West Freeman Avenue improvement project that will take a portion of church property.

At issue is a street widening and extension project to provide an adequate thoroughfare for the Berryville School’s West Campus where a new grade school and multipurpose building are expected to attract more traffic.

The roadway project calls for acquisition of a “pie-shaped” piece of property where the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is located, owned by the Mormon Church in Salt Lake City, Utah.

Mayor Tim McKinney, when addressing the Berryville City Council Tuesday night, said the church is in agreement but all negotiations have to go through the Mormon Church in Salt Lake City, which has already submitted upwards of seven plans.

In order to complete the roadwork before the start of school in August, McKinney said the city must begin the project now.

He said the church is not “comfortable” with the city proceeding without an agreement.

Condemnation, however, will give the city the legal right to proceed while negotiations continue, he explained.

“I believe we will reach a settlement before it goes to court,” McKinney said. “We need to get the project rolling. This is our only avenue to have the road ready by the start of school.

“The church is not fighting us,” he reiterated. “They realize the need. I think it’s approximately a third of an acre we’ll be taking.”

McKinney said the settlement could include a land swap involving adjoining school property, a land purchase by the city, a combination of both, or combinations of those and other options that are up for consideration. The council gave McKinney the authority to proceed.

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Centralization of asset ownership is not something a viable religious organization should promote.


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Re: Who owns the land, Jason?

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Jason, a question. You often talk of the supposed financial transparency


I don't talk about financial transparency other then to complain it does not exist. Sure you are not confusing me with someone else?


and great leway the stake or ward has in Financial matters.


Again, I am not sure I argue that. A stake or ward has leeway over their small budget allocation and the fast offering funds and that is about it.

Why is it then that Salt Lake owns the land on which church buildings sit?


Because the Corp of the presiding bishops pays for it.
A corporation fits the model better than a religion in this matter. Centralization of asset ownership is not something a viable religious organization should promote. Why is it not that the stake and ward own the property? This would fit a more distributed model that you try to promote.


Again I do not recall promoting this at all. But as for your question, many religions have central ownership of their property and many do not. I do not think the LDS CHurch is unique in this. Recently where I live a protestant congregations came out in protest of a position of its denomination and the higher ups came in and locked the building down and took possession of it and told the pastor to go elsewhere to lead the flock that was following him.
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