Mister Scratch wrote:Just out of curiosity: Why would this harm a Mopologist's "credibility"/"opportunity"? For one thing, DCP has said repeatedly that Mopologists do not gain financially in any way for their apologetics activities.
Did he really? What does Dan do besides Mopology?
Of course they gain financially from apologetic activities, even small time contributors to the FARMS review. He should at least be able to admit that.
What?? No! In fact, this is rather earth-shattering. Mopologists, including DCP, have always sworn up and down that they receive no money whatsoever! Do you know anything else on this, GoodK? E.g., how much are FARMS Review contributors typically paid? What other kinds of "financial gain" to apologists receive?
Mister Scratch wrote:I have to say, I can't help but be curious about all this, GoodK. I wish you'd share whatever "insider" knowledge you have concerning FARMS and the world of apologetics.
I would be glad to let you in on everything I know, Scratch, but just because I'm one of your fans.
Send me a PM if you have any specific questions you'd like me to answer.
Okay, I will, if I think of anything specific. Really, though, I'm mostly interested in more general details, such as the tidbit about payment above. I mean, that's a pretty rough blow to Mopologists' credibility that they are essentially "doing it for the money."
Well, I know that people like my Dad are more content with seeing their name in print, and recieving free books or other publications in return (which he usually does, since he doesn't really need the money), but I am postive they all aren't working for free or for "store credit".
I imagine it depends on who it is, celebrities like DCP probably wield bigger paychecks than the Michael Jibson's (the author of the worst FARMS review ever) but I can try and dig up some more information regarding specifics.
But yes, the Earth shattering truth is correct, they don't do it for the Love of the Game, well, at least they all don't do it just for the Love of the Game.
I can't believe DCP would even say that, if I wasn't banned from MADB I would ask him to elaborate on how exactly he his compensated for his time ;)
Okay, um... Wow! I am just blown away by this! I am going to put all of this in a new thread so that it stands a better chance of being seen by The Good Professor.
GoodK wrote: I want to ask him why God decided to give this poor girl such a horrible disease, or why the priesthood blessings didn't cure her outright, and so on...
God doesn't bring on diseases. This one was from an infectious pathogen. You must understand that healing also has a psychological dimension that is bolstered by faith due to there a mind-body duality. The Priesthood blessing helped by shoring up this psychological dimension. There may also be a spiritual dimension to which we can only speculate.
This is totally in line with bob's personality and agenda. He is arrogant and presumes the right to interfere, uninvited, in the lives of other people. By his own admission, he's told people in real life to leave the church, because their beliefs or attitudes did not suit him. He uses the fact that people sensibly post anonymously as an excuse to treat them as if they're not "real" people, and just characters in a game. He has falsely accused posters of malicious actions. in my opinion, he is a malicious individual.
We hate to seem like we don’t trust every nut with a story, but there’s evidence we can point to, and dance while shouting taunting phrases.
If Bob is so anti-anonymity, he needs to seriously self-identify. Knowing his first and last name isn't enough. There are hundreds of thousands of bob crocketts...and he knows this.
Each one has to find his peace from within. And peace to be real must be unaffected by outside circumstances. -Ghandi
GoodK wrote: I want to ask him why God decided to give this poor girl such a horrible disease, or why the priesthood blessings didn't cure her outright, and so on...
God doesn't bring on diseases. This one was from an infectious pathogen. You must understand that healing also has a psychological dimension that is bolstered by faith due to there a mind-body duality. The Priesthood blessing helped by shoring up this psychological dimension. There may also be a spiritual dimension to which we can only speculate.
I think that people attribute a lot to God that should be attributed to man, man's folly, pathogens...what I don't really understand is where human responsibility comes into play into a lot of these situations. This poor girl didn't bring this situation on herself (and GoodK didn't deserve to have to deal with Bob's need to take over the world Pinky and Brain style), but I've heard that argument before..."why didn't God...".
I stopped asking that question at age 7.
Each one has to find his peace from within. And peace to be real must be unaffected by outside circumstances. -Ghandi
GoodK wrote: I want to ask him why God decided to give this poor girl such a horrible disease, or why the priesthood blessings didn't cure her outright, and so on...
God doesn't bring on diseases. This one was from an infectious pathogen. You must understand that healing also has a psychological dimension that is bolstered by faith due to there a mind-body duality. The Priesthood blessing helped by shoring up this psychological dimension. There may also be a spiritual dimension to which we can only speculate.
The first thing I did when I found out she was sick was to tell my sister to think positive and visualize herself beating this and getting better.
Whether it was that, the prayers and fasting, the priesthood blessings, or just good ol' modern medicine that is responsible for her improved condition, I am grateful.
But if God is responsible, he has some 'splaining to do.
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GoodK wrote: I want to ask him why God decided to give this poor girl such a horrible disease, or why the priesthood blessings didn't cure her outright, and so on...
God doesn't bring on diseases. This one was from an infectious pathogen. You must understand that healing also has a psychological dimension that is bolstered by faith due to there a mind-body duality. The Priesthood blessing helped by shoring up this psychological dimension. There may also be a spiritual dimension to which we can only speculate.
You are a nice little penguin, really a good soul, and I like you. I hate to be combative.
BUT - if 'God' created everything, it was him who created the damn' pathogens and let them loose on us and our kids! You might as well say that the guy who sowed landmines didn't amputate any kid's legs. It just makes no sense.
GoodK wrote: I want to ask him why God decided to give this poor girl such a horrible disease, or why the priesthood blessings didn't cure her outright, and so on...
God doesn't bring on diseases. This one was from an infectious pathogen. You must understand that healing also has a psychological dimension that is bolstered by faith due to there a mind-body duality. The Priesthood blessing helped by shoring up this psychological dimension. There may also be a spiritual dimension to which we can only speculate.
You are a nice little penguin, really a good soul, and I like you. I hate to be combative.
BUT - if 'God' created everything, it was him who created the damn' pathogens and let them loose on us and our kids! You might as well say that the guy who sowed landmines didn't amputate any kid's legs. It just makes no sense.
Humans have the power to create as well, hon. I'll be a happier person when grown men and women actually take responsibility for the fact that though there may be a God who created them, they still have the power to choose right from wrong, love from hatred, etc...
But no... God made you do it, didn't God? LMAO
Each one has to find his peace from within. And peace to be real must be unaffected by outside circumstances. -Ghandi
GoodK wrote:If Bob decides to be a doochebag and share personal information, I will gladly post his home address, home phone number, cell phone number, and anything else I can dig up.
If my posting privileges get revoked, I don't care. I probably spend too much time on here anyway.
This stuff needs to deescalate. Nobody should be harmed as a consequence of posting here.