How Much Are LDS Apologists Paid?

[_Jason Bourne]

In other words the claim that Peterson and other LDS apologists are PAID to be apologist's seems to be a hollow claim with no evidence to back it up. Scratch must really be disappointed. Such excitement over NADA!

Yes my friend, I suppose we will just have to give the big guy the benefit of the doubt until he owns up to things or we can get a copy of his Income Tax filing.

Hey Goodk...talk is cheap. You made a claim...that you know apologists are paid. Then what do we see? Nothing. Personally I could care less if they are paid. I hope they are in fact. Time is worth something. But here you got old Scratch so excited he is almost having an orgasm. And what evidnce do we see?

None.

You are certain the DCP is paid, Midgely probably is and Sorenson might be? Come on! Cheap rumor monging and innuendo is all you have provided.

[_Jason Bourne]

I thought it was known that FARMS offers stipends for the work they produce..
I think this has been going on for at least a few years..

http://farms.BYU.edu/sumsem.html

Wow... Good find TAK!

This is old news

[_antishock8]

I thought it was known that FARMS offers stipends for the work they produce..
I think this has been going on for at least a few years..

http://farms.BYU.edu/sumsem.html

Wow... Good find TAK!

This is old news

No. It's not. This is new news to at least two posters on this board, myself included. The FACT that some apologists get paid now establishes this notion concretely. Now. The questions of which mopologists, how much they get paid, and for what apologia remain to be answered in light of claims by some well-known mopologists that they don't get paid for their efforts.

This is pretty big in light of the link above, and GoodK's assertions.

[_Jason Bourne]

I thought it was known that FARMS offers stipends for the work they produce..
I think this has been going on for at least a few years..

http://farms.BYU.edu/sumsem.html

Wow... Good find TAK!

This is old news

No. It's not. This is new news to at least two posters on this board, myself included. The FACT that some apologists get paid now establishes this notion concretely. Now. The questions of which mopologists, how much they get paid, and for what apologia remain to be answered in light of claims by some well-known mopologists that they don't get paid for their efforts.

This is pretty big in light of the link above, and GoodK's assertions.

Yes it is
Old news

Can't help it if you are behind the times.

[Physics Guy]

In other words the claim that Peterson and other LDS apologists are PAID to be apologist's seems to be a hollow claim with no evidence to back it up.

Good heavens, Jason---your poor reading comprehension skills are cropping up yet again. *Nowhere* did I or anyone else say that "LDS apologists are PAID to be apologist's [sic]". GoodK rightly pointed out that there are likely some nuanced semantic points to be made about this statement (to refresh your memory, my OP asked, "How Much Are LDS Apologists Paid?") There are a number of ways to think about this, of course. Let's put it this way: which of the following are true (or likely to be true)?

A) Mopologists are paid for the articles they write
B) Mopologists receive royalties on their Mopologetic books
C) Mopologists (some of them, at least) receive payment for time they put in doing Mopologetics
D) High-ranking Mopologists are given an "expense" account to cover their trips, speaking engagements, etc.

If any or all of these is true (and GoodK's personal experience suggests that at least a couple of them are), then DCP has been caught lying. He claimed that he received nary "a dime" for his apologetic work, but, clearly and reasonably, that isn't true.

Scratch must really be disappointed. Such excitement over NADA!

Actually, this *is* a rather big deal. Of course, critics have assumed all along that DCP and his ilk were on the Church dole for this stuff. Now we have insider confirmation, and we have DCP hiding over on the MADboard, likely crapping himself in fear that an insider is bursting this old, falsely humble bubble of his.

Chalk up another point for Ol' Scratch! ; )

[_Jason Bourne]

A) Mopologists are paid for the articles they write
B) Mopologists receive royalties and their Mopologetic books
C) Mopologists (some of them, at least) receive payment for time they put in doing Mopologetics
D) High-ranking Mopologists are given an "expense" account to cover their trips, speaking engagements, etc

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Evidence other than one persons innuendos seems lacking.

A: Where is the proof?
b: I would imagine this is the case.
C: Where is the proof?
d: Expenses to being covered to speak to a group is not getting paid. I have spoken at conferences related to my work for free but my travel, lodging and food was covered. But nothing for my time. Covering expenses makes it not a net loss to me.

[_antishock8]

I thought it was known that FARMS offers stipends for the work they produce..
I think this has been going on for at least a few years..

http://farms.BYU.edu/sumsem.html

Wow... Good find TAK!

This is old news

No. It's not. This is new news to at least two posters on this board, myself included. The FACT that some apologists get paid now establishes this notion concretely. Now. The questions of which mopologists, how much they get paid, and for what apologia remain to be answered in light of claims by some well-known mopologists that they don't get paid for their efforts.

This is pretty big in light of the link above, and GoodK's assertions.

Yes it is
Old news

Can't help it if you are behind the times.

Are you saying that it's old news that mopologists get paid to do apologia on behalf of the Mormon church?

[_Mister Scratch]

A) Mopologists are paid for the articles they write
B) Mopologists receive royalties and their Mopologetic books
C) Mopologists (some of them, at least) receive payment for time they put in doing Mopologetics
D) High-ranking Mopologists are given an "expense" account to cover their trips, speaking engagements, etc

.


Evidence other than one persons innuendos seems lacking.

A: Where is the proof?
b: I would imagine this is the case.
C: Where is the proof?
d: Expenses to being covered to speak to a group is not getting paid. I have spoken at conferences related to my work for free but my travel, lodging and food was covered. But nothing for my time. Covering expenses makes it not a net loss to me.

If 'B' alone is true, Jason, then DCP is guilty of lying/distortion of the facts.

The "proof" that you're referring to is GoodK's testimonial. I'm sort of curious why you seem so unwilling to accept this, especially since it's been established, both by GoodK him/herself, and, implicitly, by rcrocket, that Goodk is the son/daughter of a fairly prominent FARMS author... Don't you therefore think that GoodK would be in a reasonably good position to know this stuff? You know, sort of like how Joseph Smith and teachers in the Church are in a good position to correctly interpret D&C 76?

[_Jason Bourne]

The "proof" that you're referring to is GoodK's testimonial. I'm sort of curious why you seem so unwilling to accept this, especially since it's been established, both by GoodK him/herself, and, implicitly, by rcrocket, that Goodk is the son/daughter of a fairly prominent FARMS author... Don't you therefore think that GoodK would be in a reasonably good position to know this stuff? You know, sort of like how Joseph Smith and teachers in the Church are in a good position to correctly interpret D&C 76?

Goodk may or may not know. But if goodk knows then there ought to be some substance and I see none. Just innuendo.

[_rcrocket]

I have written for FARMS. I wasn't paid anything.

I have arranged for speaking engagement for FARMS directors who are also employed by BYU. The flight expense came out of my pocket. I arranged to pick them up at the airport. Accommodations were on their own nickel (they always stayed with friends or family). They received no payment from me.

Similarly, in my professional capacity I have arranged for speakers from universities to speak to professional or business groups. They are salaried at their institutions but don't receive payment from us for seminar participation. The groups I work with, however, do arrange for their hotel room, food and a rental car.

Similarly, I have been a panelist and a presenter at various business groups. I am not paid for what I publish there; I don't get paid for panel participation. My hotel room and travel are comp'd. I have never obtained business as the result of any seminar of which I was a panelist, although one of my motivations for doing this is to attract business.

I think what the FARMS presenters do is pretty formulaic in academia.

rcrocket