Is Salvia against the Word of Wisdom

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Is Salvia against the Word of Wisdom

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Salvia has been said to be the next marijuana and people are looking to ban it.
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Also interesting to me is about how some claim that salvia lets them experience immortality. I've often wondered what immortality is like. In some ways, I think immortality would actually be boring after a less than 1% of your immortal existence unless maybe you also forget what happened in the past.

I also wonder about this statement, "You don't make everybody happy when you outlaw drugs. You save one child and it's worth it."

If saving one child is worth outlawing drugs, then why isn't it worth it to outlaw automobiles or least outlaw them for children. You would save hundreds if not thousands of children each year who die or are seriously injured in automobile accidents.

Does God hate salvia and if so, why?
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Is Salvia against the Word of Wisdom?


No, but you're not supposed to swallow it while you're fasting.

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I also wonder about this statement, "You don't make everybody happy when you outlaw drugs. You save one child and it's worth it."

If saving one child is worth outlawing drugs, then why isn't it worth it to outlaw automobiles or least outlaw them for children. You would save hundreds if not thousands of children each year who die or are seriously injured in automobile accidents.


I could go either way. If drugs are legalized, there must be consequences, even severe ones, for affecting the lives of others. The current alcohol model is too weak. For example, if someone kills another because they are driving drunk, they should be executed.
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bcspace wrote:I could go either way. If drugs are legalized, there must be consequences, even severe ones, for affecting the lives of others. The current alcohol model is too weak. For example, if someone kills another because they are driving drunk, they should be executed.

The problem I have with that model is that I know some people who were drunk and were driving but didn't realize it until much later. Actually, it was one of my teachers in the MTC who told me the story of eating at an investigator's house and then not realizing he was drunk until they had almost driven from Holland to France. I really don't think he was the kind who habitually drives drunk or indeed drinks any alcohol at all.
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Holy crap, when I first read the heading I thought it was saliva and then I thought wow the church finally caught up with George Carlin when he said, "that even saliva causes cancer when swallowed in small quantities over a long period of time."
I think it would be morally right to lie about your religion to edit the article favorably.
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I could go either way. If drugs are legalized, there must be consequences, even severe ones, for affecting the lives of others. The current alcohol model is too weak. For example, if someone kills another because they are driving drunk, they should be executed.

The problem I have with that model is that I know some people who were drunk and were driving but didn't realize it until much later.


However, I think most people know what they are imbibing before they forget that they did.

Actually, it was one of my teachers in the MTC who told me the story of eating at an investigator's house and then not realizing he was drunk until they had almost driven from Holland to France. I really don't think he was the kind who habitually drives drunk or indeed drinks any alcohol at all.


I see no problem with favorably considering this possibility in law.
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The article mentioned the 'dangers of the drug' a couple times. But they never said what those were. What makes this drug so 'dangerous'?
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Who Knows wrote:The article mentioned the 'dangers of the drug' a couple times. But they never said what those were. What makes this drug so 'dangerous'?


The article mentioned something about impairing judgment while driving. As a hallucinagen, I suppose that makes sense. On the other hand, perscription drugs will do that too. Heck, I'll bet even some OTC drugs will do that.

Maybe the real danger is that it's too much fun. I still wonder why they haven't been able to ban sex and rock 'n roll along with all the drugs they're banning. Drugs aren't my idea of recreation, but I'm never going to be a fan of having the government become the moral police. I want it to protect my property and my freedom, not my soul.
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asbestosman wrote:The article mentioned something about impairing judgment while driving.


Heh. Let's ban cellphones and old people, while we're at it.
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Its hardly the next marijuana. Its just plain stupid to use this stuff. You want to read messed up trips then go to Erowid and look up Salvia.
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Re: Is Salvia against the Word of Wisdom

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asbestosman wrote:Does God hate salvia

Yes.
and if so, why?

Because it sucks.
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