How Much Are LDS Apologists Paid?

[_antishock8]

Just to make sure we're still on point:

1) Mr. Peterson claims he has NEVER made a cent off his apologetics.

2) Mr. Scratch is simply pointing out that he has, in fact, made money off his apologetics, and has lied about it.

3) Others are pointing out that money, in one way or another, big or small (mostly small), is being made producing apologetic material.

Is there anything not factual with the three points above?

[_Brackite]

Why do we need Daniel when we have Nevo? The person we really need is Bushman.

Hi Harmony,

The main reason why we need Daniel C. P. in this Discussion thread, is because He is the Chief LDS Apologist. DCP should know whether if he gets paid or not for any his LDS Apologetics.

Is that what his business card says? Or is that an assumption from outsiders? Or is that his calling?

Hi Harmony,

The following is from Mister Scratch's Guide to Mopologetics, on about Daniel C. Peterson's Profile, from the year of 2006:

Bio: DCP is the chief FAIR apologist, and is arguably the heart and soul of FAIR itself. He is a professor of Middle Eastern Studies at BYU, though some commentators feel that his accomplishments in this arena are underwhelming. Instead, he has focussed much of his time and energy on FAIR, and its accompanying organization, FARMS. He receives unprecedented protection and leeway from the moderating team at FAIR, and he is noteworthy for his tendency to post immediately after key critics have been queued or banned.

Prof. Peterson is well-known and loved for his sense of humor, and his elegant writing style. He has a penchant for self-deprecation (as in his labeling himself as "Krispy Kreme King"), though, and he is not above behaving like a buffoon (particularly in comparison to his compadre and fellow professor, Bill Hamblin). He also appears to very much enjoy the respect and admiration which is extended to him on a regular basis at FAIR, and this has led to some embarrassing moments for him. Sometimes, in an effort to demonstrate his knowledge and authority in a given arena, he will slip up and admit to things which he probably should have kept quiet. Occasionally, he engages in smear tactics and name-calling, but for the most part he is a valuable anchor for the FAIRboards.

( http://mormondiscussions.com/discuss/we ... ry.php?e=3 )

Daniel C. P. does indeed receives very special treatment and special protection from the Moderators at the MA&D Board, mainly because most of them do recognize DCP, as the 'Chie'' LDS Apologist.

[_Bond...James Bond]

No, not at all. I approve of apologists getting paid. What I *don't* approve of, is this bogus mythology about how they are all doing it for "nothing."

Do you think this comes about because of the perception of the LDS having an "unpaid clergy", and that maybe these LDS apologists get so uptight about it because they think of their apologetic work as an off shoot of their LDS priesthood role?

[_Brackite]

Daniel C. Peterson's Posts now on the MA&D Message Board, stand at:

Krispy Kreme King

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DCP has now Posted at least 70 Messages on the MA&D Message Board, since this Discussion thread was created here.
If DCP has enough time to Post at least 70 Messages on the MA&D Message Board, then he must've have enough time to Post at least one Message to us here.

[_harmony]

Daniel C. P. does indeed receives very special treatment and special protection from the Moderators at the MA&D Board, mainly because most of them do recognize DCP, as the 'Chie'' LDS Apologist.

Daniel may be the chief apologist for the MAD board, but that does not make him the chief apologist for the LDS church.

[_Jason Bourne]

Wait a sec... Are you sure about this? Many of the naysayers on this thread have been saying that none of the "they get paid" arguments have been "substantiated".... Do you have real evidence, Gad, that Gee receives payment/salary for Mopologetics?

My comments were directed at people like DCP, Hamblin and others. Gee and John Tvetdness are or were employees of FARMS. This point I will concede though I believe Peterson was referring to himself on the no pay issue. Verdict is still out on that.

[_Mister Scratch]

Daniel C. P. does indeed receives very special treatment and special protection from the Moderators at the MA&D Board, mainly because most of them do recognize DCP, as the 'Chie'' LDS Apologist.

Daniel may be the chief apologist for the MAD board, but that does not make him the chief apologist for the LDS church.

I would argue that DCP is the principal apologist for the entire LDS Church. No one has as powerful a presence, both online and in real life. No one writes more prolifically, no one seems to be in as "deeply" (i.e., with his SCMC "agenthood", acquaintance w/ GAs and so forth). No one so frankly engages with Church critics in the form of online discussion, in-print rebuttals, and live debates. Prior to him, it would have been Nibley, though I think that Prof. P. has eclipsed his forerunner.

I'm curious, Harmony, who do you think deserves the mantle of "Chief Apologist" more than DCP?

[_Mister Scratch]

Wait a sec... Are you sure about this? Many of the naysayers on this thread have been saying that none of the "they get paid" arguments have been "substantiated".... Do you have real evidence, Gad, that Gee receives payment/salary for Mopologetics?

My comments were directed at people like DCP, Hamblin and others. Gee and John Tvetdness are or were employees of FARMS. This point I will concede though I believe Peterson was referring to himself on the no pay issue. Verdict is still out on that.

It's not "still out" if you acknowledge the very, very strong likelihood that he gets payment for his books.

[_Mister Scratch]

Well, for those who've been waiting for acknowledgment from "His Highness," it seems we've gotten it at last (in a sense):

Ah, now I understand. (I should have known.)

It appears that, over on another board, it's been revealed that I don't actually teach or do any real academic work, but that, instead, the Church delivers dump truck loads of cash to my doorstep for my work with FARMS and FAIR (!).

The credulous Yme apparently swallowed that revelation hook, line, and sinker. (It's par for the course for him: He tends to trust and to prefer the opinions of the uninformed. The quality of scholarship, for example, is best determined by speculating about hypothetical polling data drawn from surveys of people unfamiliar with it.)

Incidentally, I was named a fellow and a lifetime member of the Utah Academy of Sciences, Arts, and Letters last year -- the only person so designated in 2007, as far as I know. Presumably, that honor was for my posts here, since, it seems, I don't really do much of anything else.

So: there you have it. DCP knows that he's been "caught" fibbing about the payment he receives, and so all he can do is offer up jokes and red herrings. Obviously, no one has said, anywhere, so far as I can see, that he doesn't "teach or do any real academic work." Rather, this thread has been about whether or not he gets paid for Mopologetics.

[Guest]

Well, that was a tacit admission of guilt by Mr. Peterson. He gets paid to do apologetics for the Church in addition to other endeavors, whatever they may be...