Sam Harris wrote:Perhaps these LDS guys, these members of the "one true", these high priests, these kings in their homes need to grow up. If you can't handle loving someone in a christlike and unconditional way who has been scarred, then you don't need to be having your own family, because it could be your daughter one day. What you gonna do, turn away from her?
I'm supposed to love promiscuous women who routinely cheat on their husbands in a christlike and unconditional way. Still don't plan on marrying one.
The difference between a husband-wife relationship and a father-daughter relationship are (and should be) vast. Apples and oranges. One commonality would be that if you abused either of them I would kill you.
You think sexual abuse is somehow related to a woman being promiscuous and cheating on their husbands?
What? Where is the correlation here???
I was going to the extreme to show a point. I'm supposed to show Christlike love to everyone and I try, believe it or not. Still, I don't pursue relationships with women who are actively promiscuous. I don't pursue them with those who have issues from abuse in their past. I don't date girls with Type-A personalities. I don't date gold-diggers. I don't date emotional manipulators. I don't date girls who are obese. I don't date girls who fear the water because it won't match my vacation choices.
I'm supposed to have Christlike love for all these people. I won't date them though or pursue a relationship with them because I couldn't handle it. It wouldn't be fair to me and it wouldn't be fair to them.
"Surely he knows that DCP, The Nehor, Lamanite, and other key apologists..." -Scratch clarifying my status in apologetics "I admit it; I'm a petty, petty man." -Some Schmo
Sam Harris wrote:Perhaps these LDS guys, these members of the "one true", these high priests, these kings in their homes need to grow up. If you can't handle loving someone in a christlike and unconditional way who has been scarred, then you don't need to be having your own family, because it could be your daughter one day. What you gonna do, turn away from her?
I'm supposed to love promiscuous women who routinely cheat on their husbands in a christlike and unconditional way. Still don't plan on marrying one.
The difference between a husband-wife relationship and a father-daughter relationship are (and should be) vast. Apples and oranges. One commonality would be that if you abused either of them I would kill you.
You think sexual abuse is somehow related to a woman being promiscuous and cheating on their husbands?
What? Where is the correlation here???
I was going to the extreme to show a point. I'm supposed to show Christlike love to everyone and I try, believe it or not. Still, I don't pursue relationships with women who are actively promiscuous. I don't pursue them with those who have issues from abuse in their past. I don't date girls with Type-A personalities. I don't date gold-diggers. I don't date emotional manipulators. I don't date girls who are obese. I don't date girls who fear the water because it won't match my vacation choices.
I'm supposed to have Christlike love for all these people. I won't date them though or pursue a relationship with them because I couldn't handle it. It wouldn't be fair to me and it wouldn't be fair to them.
Well, I think it's fine to know what you desire and know what you want in a partner. No disagreement there from me. I thought you were drawing a correlation....
by the way, how would you date someone actively promiscuous? Would you have orgies???
Sam Harris wrote:Perhaps these LDS guys, these members of the "one true", these high priests, these kings in their homes need to grow up. If you can't handle loving someone in a christlike and unconditional way who has been scarred, then you don't need to be having your own family, because it could be your daughter one day. What you gonna do, turn away from her?
I'm supposed to love promiscuous women who routinely cheat on their husbands in a christlike and unconditional way. Still don't plan on marrying one.
The difference between a husband-wife relationship and a father-daughter relationship are (and should be) vast. Apples and oranges. One commonality would be that if you abused either of them I would kill you.
You think sexual abuse is somehow related to a woman being promiscuous and cheating on their husbands?
What? Where is the correlation here???
I was going to the extreme to show a point. I'm supposed to show Christlike love to everyone and I try, believe it or not. Still, I don't pursue relationships with women who are actively promiscuous. I don't pursue them with those who have issues from abuse in their past. I don't date girls with Type-A personalities. I don't date gold-diggers. I don't date emotional manipulators. I don't date girls who are obese. I don't date girls who fear the water because it won't match my vacation choices.
I'm supposed to have Christlike love for all these people. I won't date them though or pursue a relationship with them because I couldn't handle it. It wouldn't be fair to me and it wouldn't be fair to them.
Well, I think it's fine to know what you desire and know what you want in a partner. No disagreement there from me. I thought you were drawing a correlation....
by the way, how would you date someone actively promiscuous? Would you have orgies???
Some girls hide things very well. The lyrics 'She was sexing everyone but me.' come to mind. She explained it when I found out and asked for forgiveness and wanted things to continue the way they were. It was a long time before I could forgive her. I still would have broken up even if I could have forgiven her then and there.
"Surely he knows that DCP, The Nehor, Lamanite, and other key apologists..." -Scratch clarifying my status in apologetics "I admit it; I'm a petty, petty man." -Some Schmo
Sam Harris wrote:Perhaps these LDS guys, these members of the "one true", these high priests, these kings in their homes need to grow up. If you can't handle loving someone in a christlike and unconditional way who has been scarred, then you don't need to be having your own family, because it could be your daughter one day. What you gonna do, turn away from her?
I'm supposed to love promiscuous women who routinely cheat on their husbands in a christlike and unconditional way. Still don't plan on marrying one.
The difference between a husband-wife relationship and a father-daughter relationship are (and should be) vast. Apples and oranges. One commonality would be that if you abused either of them I would kill you.
You think sexual abuse is somehow related to a woman being promiscuous and cheating on their husbands?
What? Where is the correlation here???
I was going to the extreme to show a point. I'm supposed to show Christlike love to everyone and I try, believe it or not. Still, I don't pursue relationships with women who are actively promiscuous. I don't pursue them with those who have issues from abuse in their past. I don't date girls with Type-A personalities. I don't date gold-diggers. I don't date emotional manipulators. I don't date girls who are obese. I don't date girls who fear the water because it won't match my vacation choices.
I'm supposed to have Christlike love for all these people. I won't date them though or pursue a relationship with them because I couldn't handle it. It wouldn't be fair to me and it wouldn't be fair to them.
Still trying to find the connection between cheaters and victims, but I'll make it before the end of the day.
Nehor...my stepdad almost raped me. We're friends. It can be done. It's called maturity and forgiveness...no superhuman strength, just a desire to move on, the knowledge that it could have been you on the other side of the sitution, and the desire to be happy. That's it!
Each one has to find his peace from within. And peace to be real must be unaffected by outside circumstances. -Ghandi
Sam Harris wrote:Still trying to find the connection between cheaters and victims, but I'll make it before the end of the day.
Nehor...my stepdad almost raped me. We're friends. It can be done. It's called maturity and forgiveness...no superhuman strength, just a desire to move on, the knowledge that it could have been you on the other side of the sitution, and the desire to be happy. That's it!
There wasn't a connection. I was picking the thing that would make most guys run and hide to show an extreme of the situation. I was contrasting things that every guy would be unable to cope with with other things that some guys can't cope with. This happens to be one of mine.
There is forgiveness and it's a beautiful thing. I just don't want to start a relationship with an albatross around my neck hampering my progress whether it's my fault or hers.
Nehor, there is no such thing as a relationship with no baggage. One that claims to be is one based on lies. And if you think that you're getting into one, you're naïve.
Each one has to find his peace from within. And peace to be real must be unaffected by outside circumstances. -Ghandi
The Nehor wrote: Some girls hide things very well. The lyrics 'She was sexing everyone but me.' come to mind. She explained it when I found out and asked for forgiveness and wanted things to continue the way they were. It was a long time before I could forgive her. I still would have broken up even if I could have forgiven her then and there.
She was having sex with everyone but YOU? I think I'd keep that to myself..... :P
Sam Harris wrote:Nehor, there is no such thing as a relationship with no baggage. One that claims to be is one based on lies. And if you think that you're getting into one, you're naïve.
Agreed, the trick is finding someone (as my friend puts it) 'whose crap you can deal with and can deal with yours.'
"Surely he knows that DCP, The Nehor, Lamanite, and other key apologists..." -Scratch clarifying my status in apologetics "I admit it; I'm a petty, petty man." -Some Schmo