Question for the atheist converts

[_antishock8]

"God" is the ulitmate abortionist. I'm not sure why religionists find the whole thing objectionable. That god of yours loves to abort the babies, fetuses, and zygotes like no one's business. Who cares if we abort an additional few million? That god of yours is aborting billions... Quite literally. He's the baby-killer extraordinaire.

[_Tarski]

They are in every sense of the term, murderers.

I once made a statement like that, when I was young and stupid. I made a woman sitting nearby cry. Her face haunts me 30 years later. It is one of the things I cannot forgive myself for. I didn't know crap. Oh, me with my religiously inspired and superstitious imagination that took into account the imaginary but not the life circumstances of a real living person.

Someone I love had a first trimester abortion under complicated circumstances that I shall not recount. Suffice it to say that she is not a murderer. She is, in fact, a better person than just about anyone else I have ever met.

[_dartagnan]

Someone who is raped on monday should realize by tuesday that she could become pregnant. When is responsibility taken? Roe/Wade encourages irresponsibility, nothing more.

I am not against the "day after" pill because I do not believe a human being exists in the womb just days after conception. But when it gets to the point where you see a body forming, a head, eyes, and even a grin on the face, ya gotta throw out all the scientific jargon and philosophical rationalization and say to yourself, could I kill it with my own hands? So why pay someone else to do it? It truly takes a heartless individual to say to themselves, "You know what, I'd rather have someone decapitate this humanlike 'thing' rather than I take on a few extra challenges in my life." Hell, give it up for adoption then. Oh wait, most people who adopt are religious. Damn! They might even be Mormons. It would be better of dead.

There's hardly anything an atheist can do to make the world safer anymore is there?

I don't think it is any wonder why there is a correlation with te surge in atheism in areas of the world that tend to be stagnating or even declining in population. It seems the only thing keeping central Europe stagnate instead of declining in numbers, is the flood of Muslim immigrants from the Middle-East.

Is it true that humans who reproduce are a happier people? Why do atheists tend to be less excited about human life?

Makes me wonder if we would even be here if humans 15,000 years ago were atheists.

[_Tarski]

Anything look human here?

Well, is looking human the same a being human? Only a simple minded person with no knowledge of neurology would think so.
You want to know what it looks like to me?
Propaganda.
How do we even know that picture is an aborted fetus? Under what circumstances? Did the mother die?

If it is an abortion is it so late in the pregnancy that no one here would support such a thing?
Well, them why bring it up?????????????????

Good thing God doesn't exist, huh?

The picture you show is of something that took place in this world where your god is supposed to rule! He did nothing (except abort about a billion fetuses a day).

[_Moniker]

Dart, Why are you saying that atheists are less excited with human life??? Did you see the stats? MORE Christians abort in our nation than those that don't identify with a religion!

I'm not a theist and can't stop my fricking heart from bubbling over at kids, pregnancies, and life in general! I wish I could sometimes!

I'm adopted... I'm pretty damn lucky my teen mother didn't abort me. But, then again if she had I wouldn't be wasting all this bandwidth. :)

[_beastie]

So your standard is that the fetus is "human" and abortion is murder when the fetus has developed a face?

In regards to your anti-atheist diatribe, I invite you to return to the other threads where you failed to provide evidence for your other accusations about atheists. You aren't even trying to hide your bigotry anymore, are you?

[_dartagnan]

I once made a statement like that, when I was young and stupid. I made a woman sitting nearby cry. Her face haunts me 30 years later. It is one of the things I cannot forgive myself for. I didn't know s***. Oh, me with my religiously inspired and superstitious imagination that took into account the imaginary but not the life circumstances of a real living person.

So you went from young and stupid to old and sympathetic to murder? Which is worse? This woman will suffer for teh rest of her life, not because of God or whatever, but because she knows what she did was murder. Leave it up to the atheists to assure her that since God doesn't exist, we're all just a bunch of random atoms swimming in the passion of space and time.

You cannot justify killing a baby like that. Telling me a sob story about how a female murderer was torn over her decision to murder her child, is not a great defense for murder. I remember about ten years ago, a woman who drove her three kids into a lake, gave a similar sob account about how it tore her apart. The reason abortion is so easy to do is because women are uneducated. They are not told how exactly their child lives, how it will be killed, etc. None of hat matters. What matters is that she doesn't become a single parent before she finishes college.

This is common sense for those who have any sense of morality. It has nothing to do with "superstitious imagination," and if you think it does, then the only thing that changed is your age. Murder is murder when it is the unjustified killing of innocent life. Until you justify it, I can't see it any other way.

[_Tarski]

Someone who is raped on monday should realize by tuesday that she could become pregnant. .

First of all, that would only take care of things since the morning after pill was invented. That leaves the rest of all of history.
Secondly, you underestimate the trauma of rape. A woman cannot be expected to think clearly. Often there is spontaneous denial and immobizing shame.
Now you tell me why "killing" the 3 day only fetus with a pill is better than "killing" a three week old fetus. Neither is even remotely human dude.

And read my last two posts!

[_Tarski]

I once made a statement like that, when I was young and stupid. I made a woman sitting nearby cry. Her face haunts me 30 years later. It is one of the things I cannot forgive myself for. I didn't know s***. Oh, me with my religiously inspired and superstitious imagination that took into account the imaginary but not the life circumstances of a real living person.

So you went from young and stupid to old and sympathetic to murder? Which is worse? This woman will suffer for the rest of her life, not because of God or whatever, but because she knows what she did was murder. Leave it up to the atheists to assure her that since God doesn't exist, we're all just a bunch of random atoms swimming in the passion of space and time.

You cannot justify killing a baby like that. Telling me a sob story about how a female murderer was torn over her decision to murder her child, is not a great defense for murder. I remember about ten years ago, a woman who drove her three kids into a lake, gave a similar sob account about how it tore her apart. The reason abortion is so easy to do is because women are uneducated. They are not told how exactly their child lives, how it will be killed, etc. None of hat matters. What matters is that she doesn't become a single parent before she finishes college.

This is common sense for those who have any sense of morality. It has nothing to do with "superstitious imagination," and if you think it does, then the only thing that changed is your age. Murder is murder when it is the unjustified killing of innocent life. Until you justify it, I can't see it any other way.

You are calling my wife a murderer. You are full of crap.

[_Moniker]

I once made a statement like that, when I was young and stupid. I made a woman sitting nearby cry. Her face haunts me 30 years later. It is one of the things I cannot forgive myself for. I didn't know s***. Oh, me with my religiously inspired and superstitious imagination that took into account the imaginary but not the life circumstances of a real living person.

So you went from young and stupid to old and sympathetic to murder? Which is worse? This woman will suffer for the rest of her life, not because of God or whatever, but because she knows what she did was murder. Leave it up to the atheists to assure her that since God doesn't exist, we're all just a bunch of random atoms swimming in the passion of space and time.

You cannot justify killing a baby like that. Telling me a sob story about how a female murderer was torn over her decision to murder her child, is not a great defense for murder. I remember about ten years ago, a woman who drove her three kids into a lake, gave a similar sob account about how it tore her apart. The reason abortion is so easy to do is because women are uneducated. They are not told how exactly their child lives, how it will be killed, etc. None of hat matters. What matters is that she doesn't become a single parent before she finishes college.

This is common sense for those who have any sense of morality. It has nothing to do with "superstitious imagination," and if you think it does, then the only thing that changed is your age. Murder is murder when it is the unjustified killing of innocent life. Until you justify it, I can't see it any other way.

Dart look at the statistics! These women are not even in college for the most part!!! You don't want women to get abortions? I don't either! I wish they never occurred either. Most of these women are below the poverty level -- they identify AS religious! It's something else -- they need BIRTH CONTROL! It's NOT atheism!!