Once again, here's BCSpace's loophole, and my refutation of it. First the reference from fiction:
22 And now, behold, if Adam had not transgressed he would not have fallen, but he would have remained in the garden of Eden. And all things which were created must have remained in the same state in which they were after they were created; and they must have remained forever, and had no end.
"All things" would have remained in the same state in which they were after they were created. Notice it does not speak of "The Creation", it speaks of the individual creation of individual things. It simply doesn't work to take these words and spin for oneself a coherent argument about how "The Creation" wasn't finished until hundreds of millions of years after things had been living and dying on Earth. The loophole scripture says that
all things, not all species, not all kinds, not "the world" or any other abstraction, but in fact
all things must have remained in the same state in which they were after they were created.
The
only way BCSpace can use this to support his loophole theory is if he proposes a meaning for the word "created" which allows for things to have come into existence, lived long and fruitfull lives, propagated their species, and died and gone back to dust, and yet never have been "created".
BCSpace, was a dinosaur part of the "all things which were created"? The dinosaurs were all dead by the time of Adam. So, were they ever created? Or did the "all things" not include the dinosaurs? We find their fossilized bones, but according to the personal definition of BCSpace of the word "created", they were never created?
According to BCSpace, "all things that were created" can have included none of the trillions of trillions of things which had been born (or subdivided, or whatever), lived, and died, for hundreds of millions of years, because homo sapiens, which had by Adam's time already been around for into the hundreds of thousands of years, were not "created" yet in the sense that they were not possessed by God-child-spirits.
BCSpace, your loophole doesn't work, and you should stop trying to claim it does and stop using it. "All things that were created" does not equal "The Creation" as an abstract process which you can say was not yet completed until the time of Adam. That verse was speaking of the individual coming into being "creation" of
all things, and trying to argue that things that had been born, procreated, ate, crapped, and died of old age had never been "created" if they did so before the days of Adam, is just plain stupid.
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