GoodK is Chap?

Post by **_Jersey Girl** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 9:33 pm

Chap

DCP is really dumb. If he cannot distinguish my voice from GoodK's, what is his judgment on literary matters worth? Zilch.

Seriously! Good point!

Post by **_Jersey Girl** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 9:39 pm

Blixa wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:What I have to say now has nothing to do personally with GoodK, DCP or GoodK's Dad.

Think of the possible ramifications of the dynamic here, folks. Suppose the parent is the authoritarian (when I say "jump" you say "how high") type of "spare the rod/spoil the child" type.

So, the kid uses his right to free speech on an internet message board.
You are also a poster on a internet message board.
You don't like what he's saying about your religion, church or you.

So you "unlevel" the playing field, rat him out to his parent and the very real possiblity is that said parent is going to beat the ever lovin' stuffing out of the kid.

Again, chicken only in this case, chicken with the potential to endanger the child.

No kidding. This is what I've been talking about in my recent remarks on board bullies, as you'll remember Jersey Girl.

Assuming that you are familiar with the psychology of bullies, you understand that courage isn't part of the mindset. Behind that big stick is almost always a very insecure person. I do think that in this case, there is a certain amount of socio-cultural conditioning that goes into it. I've seen it repeatedly on LDS boards and I think it has to do with (1) insecurity in one's perspectives (2) the use of the church "chain of command" to do one's bidding (3) Big Brother mindset that was present in Mormonism at the onset.

What do you think?

Post by **_moksha** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 9:40 pm

Isn't calling the father into this matter, a form of triangulation? What do parenting manuals suggest about this? What would they say about Dr. Peterson doing this?

Post by **_Jersey Girl** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:07 pm

moksha wrote:Isn't calling the father into this matter to as triangulation? What do parenting manuals suggest about this? What would they say about Dr. Peterson doing this?

I'm not certain that I understand what you're asking about parenting manuals. If you can ask the question more directly, I'll try answering it.

Post by **_Moniker** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:09 pm

Jersey Girl wrote:

Assuming that you are familiar with the psychology of bullies, you understand that courage isn't part of the mindset. Behind that big stick is almost always a very insecure person. I do think that in this case, there is a certain amount of socio-cultural conditioning that goes into it. I've seen it repeatedly on LDS boards and I think it has to do with (1) insecurity in one's perspectives (2) the use of the church "chain of command" to do one's bidding (3) Big Brother mindset that was present in Mormonism at the onset.

What do you think?

You didn't ask me, yet, I'm answering. I finished a course not too long ago on dynamics of classrooms and how bullies impact others -- teachers are even fond of bullies (often) and sometimes don't even care for the targets! Some just feel entitled to hurt who they please and relish in it. It's nothing more than an overabundance of ego and hurting anyone that they can. They lack empathy, and they have a desire to dominate. The newest psychology on bullies does not point to insecurity or self esteem issues -- the precise opposite is seen. Boys use physical intimidation and the females use gossip, rumor spreading, and manipulation! Interestingly enough the bullies are often the ones that are popular, well liked, and the victims are the ones that are not liked by the "community" -- whatever that would be. We have plenty of bullies on this board. They're not all LDS. :)

Edited on to add:

Bullying is a function of herd mindset. Those that are "outsiders" need to be removed from the "herd" and the one that takes charge and does this is often seen as a hero to the community. This is why those that are supremely good at bullying are quite popular in their communities.

Post by **_Moniker** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:12 pm

GoodK wrote:
Moniker wrote:Riiiiggghhhhttt... I was typing spastically, while guffawing, after a brief look of semi-shocked amusement passed my face when I wrote that post. :)

I wanted to know if GoodK had anything else to say on his motivations.

I think Bob was under some sort of delusional spell, thinking somehow that I would face some sort of consequences for criticizing my dad's faith.

He misunderstood our relationship, but I think he wished to make me feel uncomfortable and also wanted to open up some sort of dialogue with me about the church. I told my dad I would go to lunch with him and Bob to sort this whole thing out.

By the way, my sister is doing a lot better. Thanks again for those who sent me kind words regarding that whole ordeal.

Well, you say his intentions were good, and you've said that before. I'm so glad it didn't cause you any troubles with your parents.

I'm glad to hear your sister is doing better!

Post by **_Blixa** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:08 pm

Jersey Girl wrote:
Blixa wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:What I have to say now has nothing to do personally with GoodK, DCP or GoodK's Dad.

Think of the possible ramifications of the dynamic here, folks. Suppose the parent is the authoritarian (when I say "jump" you say "how high") type of "spare the rod/spoil the child" type.

So, the kid uses his right to free speech on an internet message board.
You are also a poster on a internet message board.
You don't like what he's saying about your religion, church or you.

So you "unlevel" the playing field, rat him out to his parent and the very real possiblity is that said parent is going to beat the ever lovin' stuffing out of the kid.

Again, chicken only in this case, chicken with the potential to endanger the child.

No kidding. This is what I've been talking about in my recent remarks on board bullies, as you'll remember Jersey Girl.

Assuming that you are familiar with the psychology of bullies, you understand that courage isn't part of the mindset. Behind that big stick is almost always a very insecure person. I do think that in this case, there is a certain amount of socio-cultural conditioning that goes into it. I've seen it repeatedly on LDS boards and I think it has to do with (1) insecurity in one's perspectives (2) the use of the church "chain of command" to do one's bidding (3) Big Brother mindset that was present in Mormonism at the onset.

What do you think?

Delusions of Mormon grandeur. Or in other words, yes, yes, yes, to your questions.

Post by **_Jersey Girl** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:56 pm

Blixa wrote:Delusions of Mormon grandeur. Or in other words, yes, yes, yes, to your questions.

Can you think of any solutions to this, Blixa?

Post by **_harmony** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:59 pm

Jersey Girl wrote:
Blixa wrote:Delusions of Mormon grandeur. Or in other words, yes, yes, yes, to your questions.

Can you think of any solutions to this, Blixa?

Yes. GoodK's father needs to give Daniel a major lesson in the wisdom of minding one's own business. Not that I think Daniel is going to learn it, but still...

Post by **_Jersey Girl** » Sun Mar 30, 2008 12:05 am

harmony wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:
Blixa wrote:Delusions of Mormon grandeur. Or in other words, yes, yes, yes, to your questions.

Can you think of any solutions to this, Blixa?

Yes. GoodK's father needs to give Daniel a major lesson in the wisdom of minding one's own business. Not that I think Daniel is going to learn it, but still...

Okay, let me play Dev...uh, Daniel's Advocate here.

What do you mean mind my own business? It IS my business. Your kid is defaming me on an internet message board.

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